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To: buck who wrote (17349)	2/6/2000 8:16:00 PM
From: chaz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

I think I'm beginning to understand why Buffet stays away from technology companies. You guys are WAY over my head here. I have no clue as to what any of this means in lay terms.

To: buck who wrote (17349)	2/7/2000 12:52:00 PM
From: GuinnessGuy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

buck, Thanks for the dissertation on routers/bridges. I think I learned a lot. -g- "- Routers also open up the entire packet, for the purpose of making decisions about what to do with that packet (again, based on the Cisco/Ethernet model.) This leads to more applications that can be written into the existing software, based on the contents of the entire frame or packet or IO unit. CRDS and Pathlight both claim to do this. I think that this is what enables server-free backup." news.excite.com:80/news/bw/000201/wa-adic From the above link it looks like you hit the nail on the head as far as routers from CRDS being able to enable server-free backup. BTW - Although the article doesn't explicitly state that the device is really a re-skinned CRDS router, I believe this to be the case since ADIC has a big stake in CRDS. Also note that Brocade is not listed amongst the companies offering open-system products. Ancor is there, Brocade is not. Question: You have stated that SAN management software may not ideally reside in the SAN switch due to losing cycles that would otherwise be used for performing their main task. Does this apply equally to routers as well? Also, from my research it would appear that both Sun and IBM will be offering a SANs server whose task it will be to carry out SAN management/applications. Does this jive with what you are hearing? Also, as a long-shot in providing SAN management, there is a small start-up company in Israel that is taking a different approach. Have you checked out StoreAge Networking Technologies Ltd.? store-age.com There are some short white papers on the above site explaining their technology. They are 70% owned by I.I.S. Intelligent Information Systems Ltd., which is traded on the NASDAQ(IISLF). Craig