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To: JPR who wrote (10639)2/8/2000 2:38:00 AM
From: ratan lal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12475
 
JPR

Mehta should go back to CANADA and shoot the WATER there.
If you think it is all funny, Yes it is!


Remember Shakespeare "Life is a comedy if you thinka nd a tragedy if you feel".

I dont feel a damn thing !!

ratan



To: JPR who wrote (10639)2/8/2000 12:01:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Respond to of 12475
 
So, a bunch of hoodlums decides what you can say and what you cannot? Now, that's what I call "progress" ;-)

As for me, I am not surprised with these developments. With such lawlessness, the country is bound to fragment in the coming years. Give it 10 years, and at the most 20 years, with a lot of bandages. The states in the north-eastern region will be the first to formally break off. I am rather pleased to see that things are on schedule!

Article excerpted from www.rediff.com :

The BJP's yin and yang

Let's see what surfing rediff.com this morning before writing my weekly
column came up with.

* In an incident that has sent shockwaves through conservative Pune, the
cultural capital of Maharashtra, three elderly doctors, including a retired
government servant, were arrested by the Kothrud police on charges of
blackmailing and raping a married woman over a period of one year.

While Dr Madhukar Wabhle, 74, and Dr Madhav Chintaman Raste, 64,
both residents of Karvenagar, were arrested on Saturday, Dr Vinayak
Lele, 62, a resident of Sadashiv Peth was taken into custody today. All
three have been charged under sections 376(2) and 506(1) of the Indian
Penal Code.

* In Bihar violence and the election boycott call of extremists continue to
create terror in society. For example, in the 1999 Lok Sabha election, 89
of the 189 booths under Palamu recorded zero polling because of the
threat from extremists. Similarly, in Chatra, Panki and Gaya assembly
segments 60, 54 and 36 booths, respectively, recorded no polling. The
scene at hundreds of booths in over a dozen other constituencies in central
Bihar was no different.

* The hostage drama at the S N College in Kollam has placed many,
including the district collector, in the dock.

The college principal now says the agreement to settle the three-month-old
strike by the Students Federation of India was extracted from him by
torturing him mentally.

Several senior officials, including the district superintendent of police, MP
P Rajendran and Kundara MLA Mercykutty Amma, were present when
the SFI students forced the principal, Professor V K Vijayan, to sign the
agreement after holding him hostage for more than 12 hours without food
or water.

* Electioneering for the 60-member Manipur assembly -- slated for
February 12 and 22 -- is currently overshadowed by the boycott call given
by the underground National Socialist Council of Nagaland.

The NSCN-Issac-Muivah faction, regarded as the most powerful of the
insurgent groups in the region, has a dominant presence in the five hill
districts of Manipur.

The group, currently observing a ceasefire with the Centre, has called for a
boycott of elections in the Naga-inhabited areas till the five-decade-old
Naga problem is settled. In the 60-member Manipur assembly, 28 seats
fall in the five hill districts. These seats are slated to go to the polls on
Saturday.

* Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Nara Chandrababu Naidu has directed
the crime branch -- criminal investigation department of the state police --
to inquire into the activities of Lakireddi Bali Reddy, a non-resident Indian
from Krishna district, who is alleged to have procured innocent girls from
the state over a period of time for engaging them in immoral activities in the
United States.

Now let us see what the Sangh Parivar and its affiliates have to say about
not allowing the shooting of Water to proceed in Varanasi, through such
democratic means that has forced the state government to ask the crew to
pack up even before a single shot had been canned.

According to Vishwa Hindu Parishad secretary general Ashok Singhal, the
film shows India, Varanasi and the Ganges in a poor light and hence he
and his organisation will not allow the film to be shot anywhere in the
country.

'Deepa Mehta couldn't shoot there and that is why she ran away and then
she comes to shoot in our India and insults our culture,' was what
Shyamdeo Ramchaudhary, the BJP legislator who led the protests
againstWater, told rediff.com last week.

Since the high priests of the Sangh Parivar and the BJP have allowed their
goons in Uttar Pradesh to run amok, and to cast themselves in the role of
the defenders of Indian culture and faith, I take it that the above incidents
quoted from a casual browsing session are what makes India proud.

Or look at any number of incidents that makes an Indian hang its head in
shame. Poverty, illiteracy, underdevelopment are the staple, and will be so,
50 or even 500 years after Independence, so let us not waste our time
dwelling on them. But look at a sampling of how urban life in India is
increasingly being subsumed by unhealthy forces. Area after area serviced
by cable networks screen blue films -- and in quite a few places the
operators are patrons of political parties. But it will not attract the attention
of those zealous guards of culture out on the streets. The collective
madness over something unIndian as February 14, which is fast becoming
a pan-Indian celebration thanks to aggressive marketing, raises no
eyebrows in Varanasi or beyond the Vindhyas.

If the stakes were not so high for you and me, one can take the liberty of
laughing away such buffoonery as is being exhibited by the ruling party in
Uttar Pradesh. But alas, what these self-styled defenders of public morality
-- yours and mine and everyone else's -- are doing is far too grave to be
ignored, or mocked.

If today the hordes are allowed to get away with arbitrating what is
offensive or not to 'Indian culture', and the public and the various
institutions acquiesce in it -- either actively, or through collective silence --
then tomorrow we could all land in a situation where the desi answer to the
Taleban could dictate what you and I should do, wear, say...

The prime minister, projected as a person with moderate views, cannot
open his mouth, not when his party is testing its strength in a crucial
assembly election. Actually, when one looks at it, the division of labour in
the BJP between the two stalwarts is quite interesting, and misleading.
Vajpayee, considered a dove, the right man in the wrong party, often puts
the seal of respectability on controversial issues, while Advani, the hawk,
often stokes the fire with his measured, yet provocative, utterances. Since
the two views are perceived to be at loggerheads, it is easy to conclude
that there is discord between them.

But the reality, however, seems to be that they are the yin and the yang of
the saffron brigade.



To: JPR who wrote (10639)2/8/2000 2:23:00 PM
From: JPR  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 12475
 
it takes guts for some Canadian to come to the HOLIEST PLACE for HINDUS and portray not KASI VISWANATH, but (wayward) widows and prostitutes among SADHUS and Bearded Holy men. Some Guts, Guile and grit(s) <g>.

I see some parallels:
*The NY City mayor strenuously and correctly objected portrayal of Virgin Mary in a painting with slapped-on elephant dung.
* Vandalism in Varnasi by the Hindu Fundamentalists, of the Movie set for WATER is illegal and objectionable. Choice of Varnasi as the locale for the movie WATER, the holiest of the holy places for Hindus is in poor judgement according to some Hindus. This shooting of the film WATER with the same script and story line in MECCA or VATICAN CITY will draw the ire of the Muslims and the Catholics and their respective religious heads. with this parallel, I see that the Indian Govt has been very considerate and tolerant in clearing the script.
JPR



To: JPR who wrote (10639)3/5/2000 9:39:00 AM
From: JPR  Respond to of 12475
 
Fatwa issued against AZMI

siliconinvestor.com

Mehta also got into trouble with the Muslims. The muslims were offended to see the Actress SHABANA AZMI - obviously a muslim lady - with a bald pate, a very unislamic presentation of the head.

This Fatwa may not have any teeth or does not have any punitive legal status in India. There is no reward posted, but this fatwa shows the outrage from Muslim clergy---JPR
See definition of FATWA at the end of the post.
dawn.com

Fatwa issued against Indian film actors

NEW DELHI, March 4: Five Muslim religious organizations in Andhra Pradesh have issued a fatwa
declaring that it was un-Islamic for the faithful to act in films, reports said on Saturday.

The fatwa also criticizes the actress and member of parliament Shabana Azmi for tonsuring her head
for acting in a film.

"If a woman gets her head tonsured without any Shariat excuse it would be a violation of Islamic
doctrine," the Asian Age newspaper reported, quoting the order by five religious seminaries.

Azmi tonsured her head for her role in "Water", a film by Canadian director Deepa Mehta, whose
shooting was halted following protest by Hindu extremists.

The fatwa also said Muslim film stars who have performed acts of polytheism during shooting like
taking part in a Hindu rite for a film scene have committed acts of paganism and infidelity. The edict
said such acts cannot be excused because of professional compulsions.

The fatwa has led to strong resentment among filmstars, the Asian Age said. The Indian film industry is
dominated by Muslim film stars. Three top Muslim stars _ Amir Khan, Sharukh Khan and Salman
Khan _ dominate the scene, creating what Indian film press has dubbed a "Khanopoly".-dpa

FATWA:
An authoritative legal interpretation by a mufti or religious jurist that
can provide the basis for court decision or government action.