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To: Gus who wrote (3796)2/9/2000 10:37:00 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5195
 
This only goes to prove how crazy it is to have juries deciding patents. My husband is a patent examiner, has been for the last ten years - his art has nothing to do with telecomm, which is good because if it was then I would be prohibited from investing in it (conflict of interest). It takes years of narrow specializing in one area of technology to become a senior examiner. I think in most cases only a patent examiner really knows the prior art well enough to know what's obvious, what infringes, and what's a valid extension of the prior art, although probably an engineer who specializes in the art will understand the technology, but not the wide ranges that make up any given art, and probably would need specialized training in the law. It's possible that a patent lawyer will know the technology well enough, but the ones I've met don't know anything outside their own engineering background, which was years ago. The engineers that become patent examiners and go to law school typically don't stay in the patent office for more than a couple of years.



To: Gus who wrote (3796)2/9/2000 7:05:00 PM
From: w molloy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5195
 
GUS SAID - And if you drill down at least 3 levels from any of the 5 patents covered by the
IDC-QCOM cross-licensing agreeement,
you will find more sophisticated spread spectrum system and component patents from
various companies dating back to the sixties.

W SAID- ....would equally apply to IDC would it not?

GUS SAID- Exactly. Nokia is also a major proponent of the 3g Patent Platform.

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Gus - let me post your original post again - you seem to have forgotten it.

Message 12813679
provoked by Qualcommers who can not tolerate the notion that CMDA rests on the
foundation of spread spectrum technology that has been around since the 1940s
and
1950s -- public domain foundations, in other words -- because then that would
mean
that there are alternative paths that cast serious doubts about QCOM's ability to
impose its royalty regime on the rest of the industry while it only has 10% of the
global market.


Question 1.
You assert that prior art casts serious doubts on QCOM royalties.
Why do you think serious doubts wouldn't equally apply to IDC?

Question 2.
You assert that QCOMS royalties come from 10% of the global market. Others on this thread assert that IDC gas 12% of the remaining 90%.

Comparing IDC and QCOM royalty figures

IDC : for the three month period ended
September 30, 1999 includes $3.4 million in new licenses, $4.0 million related
to development efforts for Nokia and Samsung Electronics Company, Ltd.
("Samsung"), and $2.9 million in recurring royalties.


QCOM : revenues for the first quarter of fiscal 2000 were $178 million

how do you account for the disparity?