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To: Elmer who wrote (92233)	2/9/2000 8:11:00 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573954

Elmer Re.. <<<<I always get a good laugh out of this line of reasoning. You think Intel is somehow obligated to provide AMD with a compiler to make the Athlon look good!! What a laugh!!! Is Intel also obligated to provide a better chipset too? Should Intel provide poor AMD with the best possible BIOS? Let AMD make their own damn compiler. This argument is pathetic. >>> Elmer, the point is, why would we on the AMD board care about Intel compilers made for Intel chips run on Intel computers. This is wonderful information for a Intel board. What has it got to do with AMD. Nothing, unless Intel makes the compilers public; as they are supposed to do; and the specs can be compared on different cpus. What confirmation do we have for any of these scores. None. We all know that certain benchmarks can be made to show off the strengths of any computer. You seem to think most AMD board members don't know this. As far as "is Intel obligated to supply AMD with a compiler to make AMD look good." How could that possibly happen unless Athlon really does beat PIII? Your question implies that AMD will look good by comparison. If PIII is as good as you say what are you worried about. Chicken to compare eh Elmer?

To: Elmer who wrote (92233)	2/9/2000 8:33:00 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573954

Re: You think Intel is somehow obligated to provide AMD with a compiler to make the Athlon look good!! .. No, absolutely not. But when running the same code, Athlon outscores Coppermine. I won't argue that Intel doesn't have the best compiler technology for SPEC, but I will argue that its processors are slower - do you see the difference? The complaint regarding your claims isn't that Intel's pre-fetch compiler is unfair, the issue is that comparing scores from two very different compilers isn't meaningful - it shows the difference between the compilers, not the processors. Dan