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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3536)	2/11/2000 6:52:00 PM
From: RocketMan	Respond to of 35685

Having lived in Europe for many years, and marveled at their art, their history, and their civilized culture (with the exception of portions of Naples), there is one certainty that I took away: their telecom services suck and will always suck.

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3536)	2/11/2000 11:59:00 PM
From: Dealer	Respond to of 35685

Yes! and Yes! Best at applying acrylic toe nails. You'd be a piece of cake------------------9 toes. Save your toe because we in the South think there ain't nothing no better that a warm piece of toast, butter and toe jam. dealer

To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3536)	2/12/2000 4:11:00 PM
From: w molloy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 35685

>> correct me if I am wrong, anybody Always my pleasure key fact: European corporations did almost nothing to advance the technology, only the adoption and usage 1. I miss the distinction between advancing a technology vs adoption and usage. Aren't they the same thing? 2. If you mean proposing a new technology then adopting it, GSM is the primo example. 3. Two more examples of new concepts advanced by european companies a) ARM cores. Licensing proven designs for a RISC processor aimed squarely at portable devices b) SIM cards. Simplifying cross network roaming in ways not possible in the US. Europe thought they had established dominance in the wireless telephone sector ooops, wrong again, forgot to create the next generation when it comes to technology, nothing but nothing stands still Europe still has dominance. Look at the overall numbers for GSM vs CDMA. Regarding the maturity of markets, consider the penetration of wirless in European countries, especially Scandinavia, where it is over 60%. US wireless penetration lags behind Europe and Japan. US companies will not have a lock on 3G, as you imply. The Asian companies will quite possibly take over from NOK ERICY and MOT in the handset arena. The infra market will be carved up by the current players ERICY, NORTEL and LU. QCOM has conceded the OEM spoils, by divesting themselves of the infra and handset divisions to focus on chipsets and IPR. Nothing wrong with that, but remember that QCOM is paying license fees to ARM. t will be fun to watch Europe squirm in wireless data backwaters in coming months This is just a plain dumb statement. w.