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To: Zardoz who wrote (48931)2/12/2000 7:47:00 PM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116914
 
Hutch, I'm sure Frank Veneroso can match your brain power and deliver
an excellent exchange for a debate on an area of gold that you have
already researched, and disagree with him.

This man is not available, and eventhought Bill Murphy could debate you
with the same position taken by Mr. Veneroso, we all know that you
would make mush of Bill and he would leave, once again, with a bloody nose.

Might you or another post the views of Mr. Veneroso as to your comments.

<<Maybe the question of the BOE sale shouldn't be:"Why so cheap?"
but should be:"Why at all?">>

<<...So if it was to drive down price, then those alleged
shorted hedge funds haven't covered. In deed maybe the problem
arises as to what a short really is. If a company has sold
forward production of 4M Toz, could that not be mistakenly
accounted for as a short position of 124.4 Tonnes.
In deed the whole accountability of calculating a short position
on OTC derivatives and futures may be suspect.
And those who state a given number of tonnes short may have
some axe to grind. hutch

As for me, I'm extra clueless as to what a short is and only know of
derivatives used in the field of mathematics

Doug



To: Zardoz who wrote (48931)2/12/2000 11:44:00 PM
From: Gord Bolton  Respond to of 116914
 
Rand falls to 17-month low
LUKE BAKER, Johannesburg | Friday 5.30pm

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THE rand weakened sharply on Friday, falling to its lowest level in 17 months as strong demand for the dollar battered the currency and forced those caught holding rand to ditch their positions.
Traders said the move, which saw the rand slide from R6,32 early in the session to R6,40 at one point, was exaggerated by a thin market ahead of the weekend. But it still took the Government bonds, which have enjoyed solid buying on the back of encouraging economic fundamentals, stood their ground. The rand has suffered all week after several big gold producers announced they are buying out their bullion hedges -- transactions which mean selling rand for dollars in order to buy back gold sold forward.
That has helped the bullion price rise, but dented the rand, which has lost nearly 3% since Monday.
"The rising price of gold appears to have washed out a lot of the hedging positions. Rand weakness is clearly not based on fundamentals, but the short-term risk is for it to weaken further," said Bank of America's Juliet Sampson in London." Dollar strength against the euro and other major currencies also weighed.
The rand's decline will be little comfort for the central bank which has been trying to unwind a large forward foreign currency position. To do that it needs to buy dollars, but must also try to maintain the stability of the rand.
Most economists had forecast that sound fundamentals would keep the rand fairly stable this year -- to end around 6.35 to the dollar -- which would allow the Reserve Bank to unwind much of the forward book, perceived as the currency's Achilles' heel in the past.



To: Zardoz who wrote (48931)2/12/2000 11:48:00 PM
From: Gord Bolton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116914
 
Hutch, I don't think the average english bloke is going to be screaming about a conspiracy to knock down the POG. They are just going to be extremely pissed that the BOE was giving it away cheap.

"Nice day for a hanging, whot?"

Cheerio then



To: Zardoz who wrote (48931)2/13/2000 6:18:00 AM
From: Bobby Yellin  Respond to of 116914
 
Hi Hutch
please elaborate more--
bobby