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To: Scumbria who wrote (92848)	2/13/2000 12:40:00 AM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574852

Scumbria, Goutama, thread, the VIA KX133 mobo list has increased from 7 to 16 (2 from ASUS) Looks very good. via.com.tw steve PS, I'll try to buy me a cheap pc100 Athlon board I guess. Too much pc100 to throw away. :o)

To: Scumbria who wrote (92848)	2/13/2000 12:53:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574852

Re: "During the last few months AMD has delivered beyond their promises. In contrast, Intel has fallen quite short. Gateway and Dell have made no secret of this." And you believe Intel hasn't resolved their capacity problems and no further speed work has been done, right? Good, we are in sync. There is no reason whatsoever to think that Intel's process should ever produce anything faster than the first early production units from a brand new process. Even though their previous process yielded a nearly 2X improvement from first production to mature product, we should still see the same limits at around 800MHz that we have seen on early CuMine production. Right? No amount of speed path work is going to change that. Right? No process improvements will help what's basically an architecture limitation. Right? Obviously Intel won't get above their current speed. It's an architecture thing. It just wasn't built for speed so there's no way they can pull this off. Right? Pipelines too short. Right? I mean Intel is going to continue screwing up for ever. Right? So, like I said. You and I are in agreement so don't pay any attention to those lies. EP

To: Scumbria who wrote (92848)	2/13/2000 11:57:00 AM
From: semiconeng	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 1574852

During the last few months AMD has delivered beyond their promises. In contrast, Intel has fallen quite short. Gateway and Dell have made no secret of this. Scumbria Really? I find that interesting, because because reports are that the on-die cache has been delayed 3 times: sharkyextreme.com "Originally, AMD had planned to move the L2 cache onto the die concurrently with the transition to the .18-micron process (i.e. with the 750MHz Athlon). Unfortunately, the 850MHz Athlon is the third processor we've seen after that point without the added benefit of an on-die L2 cache." And their SMP Chipset has also been delayed: geek.com "Athlon multiprocessing delayed - AMD announced that their multiprocessing chipsets, the AMD 760 and 770, will not be ready until 2001. This is a delay from previous estimates that the AMD Athlon would be available in multiprocessing configurations in the second half of 2000. This basically gives Intel free rein over the workstation and server market for the next year." Oh, wait, you probably meant that "AMD has delivered beyond their promises" concerning Microprocessor "SPEED" I guess that I misunderstood. Never mind <g> SemiConEng