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To: Tony Viola who wrote (99159)	2/15/2000 3:27:00 PM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 186894

Tony, As far as next generation, looks like No Mas to me. What will AMD even put up against Willamette? If Intel can get all their ducks in a row with Willamette, AMD will be in a lot of trouble next year. Scumbria

To: Tony Viola who wrote (99159)	2/15/2000 3:31:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "Well, comparing apples to apples, AMD's got us by a little (maybe) on current product, if you take the 1.1 GHz vs. 1.0 GHz as THE best comparison of fastest." AMD's demo was of a unreleased product made on a as-yet non-production process. EP

To: Tony Viola who wrote (99159)	2/15/2000 3:31:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony, <As far as next generation, looks like No Mas to me. What will AMD even put up against Willamette?> I already mentioned that if AMD's upcoming "Sledgehammer" is nothing more than an Athlon core with x86-64 extensions and a reworked FPU, then it will fail miserably against Willamette and its follow-on, Northwood. Of course, at the time, hardly anyone believed me ... Tenchusatsu

To: Tony Viola who wrote (99159)	2/15/2000 7:15:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 186894

Tony - <Well, comparing apples to apples, AMD's got us by a little (maybe) on current product, if you take the 1.1 GHz vs. 1.0 GHz as THE best comparison of fastest.> One thing I would like to point out: The Athlon demo I believe was on AMD's Dresden /Cu process, a process currently not shipping. The Coppermine demos today were on Intel's .18 Al process, a technology that is shipping currently. That said, it would not surprise me if AMD also had working 1GHz samples on its Al process, although I have not heard of any concrete proof of this yet. PB