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To: lorrie coey who wrote (46816)	2/16/2000 9:58:00 AM
From: jpmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

lol. good to see ya, lorrie. ~ The screen door slams Mary's dress waves Like a vision she dances across the porch As the radio plays Roy Orbison singing for the lonely Hey that's me..

To: lorrie coey who wrote (46816)	2/16/2000 12:46:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

<<<It must be hard for ya'll...just get snipped, and stfu.>>> Hi, Lorrie. Can I figure out how to word a response, ever so ~ meanderly? I'm drinking some coffee, to try to get ON, and all, but I can't get mentally organized, and there is one of my favorite mysterious birds right out the window making this "It's Spring" sort of heeeeeeeeeeeeePP! sound. I am awash in largesse. I think that's the word. Webs. It seems logical, given the difficulties of birth control from the female direction, for the primary onus of birth control to be on males. At all times. I couldn't write the thing I wrote there if I hadn't come to that conclusion and been "snipped" uh ~ 25 years ago. That would make me a big jerk, wouldn't it? I mean, I might have been stupid then, but I'm not sixteen any more. [I admit being a jerk, too. Just not that one.] I would like to say this without being mean to males, and arrogant ~ but I'm not sure I can muster that kind of nice-ness, so I'll just forge ahead ~ at some time people have to think these things through. The idea of men expecting women to do "the work" is really kind of stupefying. But hey, they're males; that's the way we work initially. But then say "you" (the male) start to think (it could happen) and you, or you and your partner, decide to look at this situation practically ~ that is the whole effects of every method of not becoming parents ~ look at the health and comfort and sacrifice and such. Workload, side effects, happiness......it's a fairly long list, all seeming to pile up on one member of the partnership..... Assuming the people project themselves into what happens to each other to make these things work, and assuming they don't want to become bio-logical parents, the factors seem to come down heavily on the male being the obvious buddy to nip in the. Don't you think? I guess you already said that. I agree with you. Two hundred per cent. I've been asked about vasectomy by a couple of my friends and have used the opportunity to jump up and down and gesticulate wildly about it. If spouse and I were going to have children, we would take some of the extras that are around, and need a place to live. We don't need to be biologic parents. So we don't need my spermies, which should, frankly, be shut off from the pool anyway. As a matter of fact, I happen to be scientifically pleased with having euthanized the genes my parents gave me. Objectively, it was a very good "human health" idea. Seriously. Knowing what I know about my genes now, I wouldn't want to be passing them on, what a load of fear and guilt; I think they should be ambushed and dumped by the trail. So then what are you keeping them around for? Just to be a jerk? Just to force your wife to take powerful "medicines" that completely alter her physiology? Or mess with a chemistry kit? Insert more foreign objects? E-gads, man. Males who do this, in my un-humble opinion, are total morons, who should be sterilized, just to clear the pool of their presence. If I were a woman, I sure wouldn't mate with them. Or probably even talk to them. Couples who are certain they don't want biologic children and the woman still gets pregnant? They both need knocked up the side of the head. With a baby stroller. What the hell were they thinking? But it happens a lot. Vasectomy is simple, healthful, and 100 pct effective. Nothing quite like that. There are NO proven side effects, other than general bliss and security and knowing you did the right thing. And appreciating you are preventing the effects a woman has to endure. Why wouldn't you do that? It's just one of the few really pleasing decisions in life; pleasing because it's so positive in so many ways. And works so well. I am happy that I did something right for the world. And my friend. But, there's a lot to do; and that was just one thing, and a long time ago, so hoop-dee-doo. Just letting you know how I can remember the pre-sanity days. It's in the context of being a sterile male that I can wax about how peculiar birth control is. Was. I was making fun of my self and it. I can't see any reason women should have to do all that peculiar shit, and I can't believe they do.