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To: Ilaine who wrote (46823)2/16/2000 11:29:00 AM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
Well, I don't think much of either behavior. But it just seemed to be a very vague kind of accusation- we don't really know WHAT he cheated at or if it WAS for money or anything else, and I wasn't sure if you were serious. But if you're just yanking chains, that's ok.

He looks like a very nice person in the picture nihil posted. Very good-natured. And of course, LOOKING good is what it's all about nowadays.




To: Ilaine who wrote (46823)2/16/2000 8:19:00 PM
From: nihil  Respond to of 71178
 
Let me tell about cheating at cards (which I no longer play).
At college, during engineer's preschool two weeks of surveying (an honorable trade) -- we would gather and play poker. One of my friends (from Texas, by the way) managed to get in a game of Reddog (look it up) which when badly played leads to huge pots (especially at pot limit table stakes -- imagine freshmen playing that). I was extraordinarily poor -- and my friend W had bet his entire Princeton tuition on one pot. He said he would shoot until he won it all 1back. I was big winner and drew a (nearly) perfect hand. I had enough to take his pot (he hadn't the cash and I would obviously not lose enough for him to win it back.
Should I have taken his money and sent him back to Texas? Would I be cheating if I folded and let him take the pot (which had some of my money in it)?(of course I might have lost!) Cheating at cards is at least as complicated as any other branch of moral philosophy.



To: Ilaine who wrote (46823)2/16/2000 8:32:00 PM
From: nihil  Respond to of 71178
 
I'll tell you another gambling tale from my checkered past. The Boys at the Finance Division of the "Bum Plant" -- Savannah River Operations Office, AEC in 1955 played poker every friday night. The Head of Finance, the Budget Chief, the Accounting Chief, the Audit Chief, two senior budget analysts and me, a junior budget analyst. Nickel, Dime, Quarter -- win or lose $20 bucks a night max. Our salaries ranged from $400-1200 a month.
After a few games as a newbie it became obvious to me that the Chief Accountant (GS-14 when 15 was as high as it went) was "copping chips" from the pots. I guess he stole several dollars a night. I told by boss that I was pretty sure that he was. My boss was a very good man. He laughed and said everyone knew that, but that it wasn't very much and anyway, he had had a bad war and no one there was going to lose his companionship or threaten his job by making any accusation. He asked me if I agreed.
These guys were men. One of them as a major in the war had fought like hell to prevent the US Army from shipping Russian prisoners back to be executed by Stalin, had been demoted, and threatened with court martial.
If they could stand him, I certainly could.



To: Ilaine who wrote (46823)2/16/2000 9:25:00 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
<<Cheating at cards, however, requires incomprehensible malice and treachery, if one is playing for money. It's theft, from one's intimates, which is beyond the pale. If one of my friends stole money from me, I'd never forgive him.>>

On my farm the fellow who farmed it died. Skin Cancer at 51. His widow wanted to still run his end of the farming. Her daughter would do most of it with the help of her friends and family.

I lost 9 large because she was slow in moving the grain last year. Ok. Now because of a family dispute they will lose some ground and will quit farming as of 2/12/2000. On Dec 5 I asked that my grain be hauled in. Last week they sold all their grain hauling stuff. I asked about my 45k worth of grain to be hauled in as to our contract and got the reply we have quit. Like screw me who gave them their chance?

I will never trust a woman again in business.