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To: Scumbria who wrote (93734)	2/17/2000 1:54:00 AM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 1572172

Re: "We started at 3 GHz, and have degenerated to 800 MHz in only 24 hours. If a demo runs once, it should run indefinitely. The same sequence of instructions running over and over again does not produce different results each time it runs." Scumbria in your wild hysteria you missed the word "if". And it's simply not true that a system should run the same demo exactly the same way every time you run it. There is a chipset involved too you know, with constant i/o and refresh cycles happening. They do NOT happen in exactly the same sequence every time they run. This is A-0 chipset silicon too I presume seeing as previously there was no Willamette to debug it. Same goes for the motherboard. Yet they did a demo in front of a large audience of technical professionals for 2 hours. AMD did a quick showing of a MHz meter. You are really digging yourself a deep hole Scumbria and I suggest you take a rest. You're losing it. EP

To: Scumbria who wrote (93734)	2/17/2000 2:01:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1572172

Scumbria - <If a demo runs once, it should run indefinitely. The same sequence of instructions running over and over again does not produce different results each time it runs.> Scumbria, the machine running PPT was running at over 1GHz, air cooled. ZDN seems to think it was running at 1.4GHz. Message 12893101 I don't know if this was the exact speed, but it is certainly in the noise of known data points to me. PB

To: Scumbria who wrote (93734)	2/17/2000 2:15:00 AM
From: Mani1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572172

Scumbria, when Athlon was first demoed it was only at 500 MHz. People like Elmer and Paul laughed at it and counted it out. Don't be as foolish and make the same mistake. As great as Willamete might be, it will not be factor till well into 2001. AMD has another 12 months to print money. They also have 12 months to improve the core, improve chipsets and MB and take market share in the business sector. Even if Willamete turns out to be great, it is too late to hurt AMD much. AMD seems to have a great roadmap and should continue to make its shareholder happy. Street still does not believe in us, but I think they will after AMD reports a higher EPS than Intel in 2000. Sledgehammer will follow Willamete and will not be nearly as needed as the Athlon was 6 months ago. As you also know Hector Ruize is working very hard on long term plans. Mani