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To: Scumbria who wrote (93751)	2/17/2000 2:14:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574855

Scumbria - <This is not a 3 GHz CPU, and probably isn't a 1.5 GHz CPU either. Intel has stated that it is 30% faster than Coppermine, and won't ship until Q4.> You are being very nit-picky. 1) Intel said the base frequency ws 1.5GHz. They DID NOT SAY IT IS A 3GHZ CHIP. 2) They did say that the integer unit runs at 3.0 GHz. IT CERTAINLY DOES! Little xtors humming along with incredibly low inverter delay. I HAVE TO EAT MY HAT ON THAT ONE. Feel free to be skeptical about the performance gain. With no benchmarks available yet, this is reasonable. <Another thing to remember is that a very deep pipeline will be much harder to tune. This is because it undoubtedly is very balanced already, and has a limited number of gates per stage to work with.> You're over my head now. I will ask around how the tuning is going. PB

To: Scumbria who wrote (93751)	2/17/2000 2:43:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574855

Scumbria - re: The REgister article you are hanging onto so much; my take. Message 12893194 I believe they probably were misinterpreted. At the end of the 1.5GHz demo, Grove and Yu were doing a little bantering. Grove asked something to the effect if he was comfortable with this speed. Yu indicated this was A-0, first look Silicon. Then Grove interjected "so the implication is that later silicon will be faster." Yu said "yes, next revisions of Si"....the implications of that exchange were very clear. This makes sense. There has been no speed path work on the Willy Si that was shown at the demo. Also, the front end of the P858 process will incrementally improve over time. Geez. The Register can even screw up a face to face interview. PB

To: Scumbria who wrote (93751)	2/18/2000 9:28:00 AM
From: Kevin K. Spurway	Respond to of 1574855

Re: "Intel has stated that it is 30% faster than Coppermine, and won't ship until Q4." That's the meat of the whole thing. I gotta figure T-bird will be at least 30% faster than the Flopper, clock for clock. Moreover, Intel stated that it only expects to ship "hundreds of thousands" of Wallamartte CPUs this year. For a company Intel's size, that is a rounding error. We can debate the technology and how fast it was running at all day long, but these are the brass tacks. Kevin