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To: QwikSand who wrote (27889)	2/17/2000 8:53:00 AM
From: cfimx	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

>>"We're going to eat and eat and eat," Mr. Ballmer said. It may take a while, he said, but "all they can do is lose. They have no upside. They're on the downside of the slope, baby." ... "They're carrying that big overpriced hardware on their back, and now they're in a dogfight," Mr. Ballmer said. "I just think they're on an outmoded model." << WOW. you see what the talented mr mcnealy has wrought? Wow. Like I've always said. It's PERSONAL. Wow. I'm hungry... Carly sounded none too pleased either last night. There is an old saying. You live by the sword, you die by the sword... This was from the same article: Intel Takes a Shot Microsoft isn't the only major competitor taking shots at Sun these days. Earlier this week, Intel Corp. abruptly denounced Sun's efforts to make Solaris run on Intel's new line of server-based microprocessors as "less than promising' and said it will limit its future support for Solaris. The move poses a potentially serious problem for Sun, which is ramping up its efforts to adapt Solaris to run on Intel's chips to win wider support for the operating system. Paul Otellini, head of Intel's microprocessor-architecture group, said Sun had failed to "follow through" on its commitments to make Solaris run quickly on Intel chips and to generate enthusiasm among software vendors who would develop applications for the system. Sun officials insist that they were fully committed to the Intel program.

To: QwikSand who wrote (27889)	2/17/2000 11:24:00 AM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

I really didn't mean to single you out for being OT, QwikSand. In fact, IMHO your posts are among the best here. I haven't issued another "chastisement" partly because having a thread full of complaints about OT posts is even worse than the OT posts themselves. As far as I'm concerned, OT posts are ok in moderation. They have gone a little over-the-top on occasion recently. But we've got a pretty good community here with relatively little abuse. Interesting article. It's hard for me to understand where Intel is going with this. Maybe they need a scapegoat for canning or further delaying Itanium and have settled on blaming the unavailability of software for it. That kind of thing hasn't stopped them from releasing other chips, though. If they had a problem with Sun's level of commitment and seriously wanted to remedy it, I would have thought going public with their complaints would be low on the list of action items. A little private discourse would be much more effective, and I haven't seen any evidence from either side that they had discussed this in private. JMHO, as always.