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To: Goutam who wrote (93816)	2/17/2000 7:04:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576329

Willamette chip cores run at 3GHz theregister.co.uk This hot off the virtual press at the Register: Intel said today that there are two arithmetical logical units (ALUs) within its up-and-coming microprocessor codenamed Willamette that each run at 3GHz. The rest of the microprocessor runs at 1.5GHz, Intel representatives said. Yesterday, Intel demonstrated a Willamette processor which was not air cooled and which clocked over 1500MHz. At the time, Dr Albert Yu, senior VP in charge of desktop architecture, said that one ALU had been specially optimised to run faster than the rest of the microprocessor. But Intel was chary of saying that Willamette will run at 3GHz, and, in fact, kept describing the microprocessor as 1GHz/500. The reason for this, according to representatives, was because end users and consumers would be confused by describing the chip as 1.5GHz. Nope, Intel wouldn't want to confuse end users and consumers. All the confusion about what, actually, got demoed is just an unfortunate side effect of trying to confuse investors and technoid types. FUD? I don't see no FUD. Do you see any FUD? Cheers, Dan.

To: Goutam who wrote (93816)	2/17/2000 7:20:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1576329

Goutama - <It's my recollection that Scrumbia was the first one expressed that if there is any thing running at 3GHz on Willamette chip, then it might be just a tiny circuit on the chip running at 3GHz. The ALU details on this board appeared later in response to his posts.> I will buy this. On this particular item I can give Scumbria a free pass. I was skeptical myself until it was explained to me in some amount of detail (that I still don't totally understand, because as you rightfully point out, I am no CPU architect :-/). What I am having more of a problem with is the flying off the handle before all the details come in. Maybe I'd be more forgiving about errors in complex situations like the above, if he wasn't in the same post proclaiming crap like "The truth comes in! Willy really a 1000/ 500 hybrid that's not even air cooled!" Puh-leeeeze. Just watch the damn presentation and you know what's going on with both of these items. It's pretty obvious something is up his craw on the whole thing. Maybe he really does think Willy is a POS. That's fine. We need the benchmarks to come out anyway IMO before too many conclusions about Willy performance are proclaimed. I certainly should be tolerant of skepticism in lieu of benchmarks. If at times I don't seem like I'm being very tolerant, chalk it up to my bias and blow me off, because until the benchmarks come out, I don't have a leg to stand on. Nice job on dousing the flames with some level criticism Goutama. PB

To: Goutam who wrote (93816)	2/17/2000 1:46:00 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1576329

I make it a point to read all Scrumbia's posts and pay attention to whenever he discusses matters related to Processor architecture. He did mention about the control logic - it's you that missed it - because you are not a CPU architecture guy to grasp the whole picture from Scrumbia's posts unless its explained to you. Also, read Scrumbia's posts again and don't leave the subtle qualifiers or technical terms in his comments - especially pay attention where he says ".18 xtors won't run at 3GHz ...." ( "..." indicates few important words you left out from Scrumbia's post - for you the left out part may not look significant or important, but its essential to understand what Scrumbia is trying to elicit) Goutama, nicely said. ted