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To: Neocon who wrote (74796)	2/21/2000 8:36:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I don't think I was taunting you at all, although I do think you badly underestimate the difficulty of doing right or doing good in a world with an inconsistent set of moral laws. The slave has no right to free himself under any conditions in a society that legalizes slavery. It has nothing to do with any supposed right to kill in self-defense, certainly not to kill the innocent child of a slave owner. The slave is simply not a moral agent, and must be burned as they were in South Carolina and Virginia in the days before the war. The American government supported these state murders. Have you ever wondered what happened to the other people who rebelled with John Brown? Surely you knew it was U.S. Marines under the overall command of U.S. Army Colonel R. E. Lee who captured the rebels? Does this make the American government of the day an immoral government? (I think it does; and I think its immorality might justify the Secession of the States because no State could morally be bound to obey an immoral state. --- see how complicated everything is? Where are your general principles now?)

To: Neocon who wrote (74796)	2/21/2000 8:42:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

If God told one to do something, certainly one has the obligation to do it. -- N. Are we to trust just anyone to claim the command of God? Had Hitler claimed an Aryan God told him to kill the Jews (and Gypsies and Homosexuals and others) are we simply to accept his word on this? When Elijah (as the Bible said) burned the priests of Baal and fed the nasty children to the bears and blamed it on God are we to believe this blasphemy and worship any God who would do such rotten things?

To: Neocon who wrote (74796)	2/21/2000 8:49:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

No, it is not right to burn heretics, and I am glad the practice was retired. But it is understandable. .. N Well you may understand it, but I don't. When Bishop Cauchon had Joan of Arc burned at the stake he was acting under the full authority of the Church and the infallible Pope. Had there have been any natural law agreed to by humanity the very stones would have cried aloud against this crime. When Ferdinand and Isabella had the Jews expelled from Spain, robbed, and many burned by the Holy Inquisition they were acting under the full authority of Spanish and Church Law. Would a fanatic who had assassinated both of them with the intention of stopping the violation of the natural law to believe what he will would he have been justified?