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To: Rambi who wrote (47140)	2/21/2000 12:18:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Respond to of 71178

I think sometimes kids should take a year off before college, and get On The Loose. Let life find them while they find it. I wanted to design buildings ~ but then when I started hanging around the architecture school and the profession, and jeez, that would have been a huge mistake, and I would have had too much invested to do anything else. Spouse was sure of what she wanted to do from the start ~ even tho now she feels she may have to move to a country or community where they let her do it. (A very sad story we have created for teachers, there.) <<<We told him that we would support whatever conclusions he reaches. But I wish we could help more. That seemed to be enough right now--- I think maybe he needed just to know that he isn't TRAPPED.>>> At least you "validated" his feelings, or empathized with them, or whatever. That is a huge step, imho. Super good for you. Typical Wstbrk. Hip hooray. <<<Both boys say they want to own a little house on the beach, where they can run their own businesses or write, and not put up with people.. This is exactly what Dan and I want, so I can hardly be surprised. BUt what have we done.>>> Eeek, uh. Where are the skills and options to do things differently? What? How? Where?

To: Rambi who wrote (47140)	2/21/2000 12:29:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

Dear Rambi- Happy Birthday And tell CW this. When Mr X and I were attending A Cal State school, getting our undergrad degrees, Mr. X became disillusioned with computer science - he hated the math and the undergrad classes. He said to me "What should I do? I've always liked Geology maybe I should do that." I gave him the standard line my parents gave me- do what you love. So Mr X switched to Geology- which he enjoyed. ANd he found a niche where he worked with computers doing groundwater modeling and meteorology. So all looked fine- until he graduated. Then he found himself drifting into working with computers- but he didn't have the right degree. He was brilliant but unrecognized because he worked as a tech. Other people took the credit for his innovations, or didn't even listen to him at all. SOOO, he went back and got the "right" degree, comp sci- and NOW he is recognized for the brilliant guy he is. He says I should have told him to keep his eye on the GOAL, of what he wanted and not encourage him to take the easy "fun" path. Now I take no responsibility for his choice- I gave him the best I could give him at the time- and in LUCID moments he knows that- but maybe CW can use this. I think there is a moral in there somewhere.

To: Rambi who wrote (47140)	2/21/2000 12:34:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 71178

Both of my grandmothers had little houses on the beach, and their own businesses, and both felt that life had passed them by, that they had not lived up to their potential. I think they were both content, as they weren't terribly ambitious, but they both wanted me to do "more." They both thought I could be President, if I wanted to. Neither of them encouraged me to follow in their footsteps, they didn't seem to even imagine that I would. What is "Comp"? When I started college at LSU, I was in something called the Honors Program, for people who scored high on the SAT, which required us to take Honors Colloquia in literature, world history, science, and philosophy. We sat around seminar tables, much like graduate level classes, and read a lot of books, and discussed them. I enjoyed studying philosophy, which benefits from systematic study. I hated literature classes, the process of analyzing plot, style, character, etc. was boring because it was so obvious, yet except for one or two people the class just plodded. The science classes were good. All of these were taught by major professors. I would never take a class taught by a TA, every time I got one I transferred out of it.

To: Rambi who wrote (47140)	2/21/2000 12:34:00 PM
From: Gauguin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

Watch lightning strike: Did you offer CW hemlock? Maybe the whole fam? (Looking skyward from the cesspool of bad taste.) Hmmm. I wonder what hemlock tastes like. (See? A scientific bent! Not ded yet!) (I wonder what lightning feels like.) You know there's a Hemlock Society? I always wonder how that can be. It's a oxymoron, it is.

To: Rambi who wrote (47140)	2/21/2000 2:57:00 PM
From: DScottD	Respond to of 71178

I think that CW is merely experiencing the frustrations of most college freshmen. I know I felt the same way during my first year or so of undergrad. First year of law school too for that matter. I do know that my last two years of undergrad were probably the most rewarding of all of my years of schooling. I would remind CW not to make generalizations about what his college experience is going to be like based on his first semester and change at Rice. I went to college feeling the same way about myself and was at first disappointed because it seemed that the profs and the university didn't care about the students. At least the freshmen students. Part of the disappointment had to do with all of a sudden being low man on the totem pole again after being on top of the world my last year or so of high school. However, once I got the first year or so behind me, I found that all of a sudden the professors cared and I developed great relationships with a number of wonderful professors who not only taught me a lot about their particular subject but also took interest in me as a person and went out of their way to help me meet my goals. Some day the light will come on and he will understand why they require you to go through the torture before you can get to what you think is really important. Happy Birthday. DSD