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To: Kiriakos Georgiou who wrote (4639)	2/22/2000 2:51:00 AM
From: David R	Respond to of 5102

RE: If publications are an excellent metric, then java has long surpassed C++ But of course that is a silly metric for everyone except Rod. Three years ago, Java was the hot buzzword for the tech press, everybody and their cousin claimed to be an expert, thus the flood of books. Java was going to save the world. Java is now Passe'. Where are all those Java rings, Java handhelds, screaming Java CheapBox 386's, JTAPI apps, etc.? The rage of today is Linux. Thus everybody and their cousin claims to be a Linux expert, and the bookstore shelves are going to pile high with Linux books. But unless Linux displaces Windows (a long shot at best) once again you have a useless metric. The funny thing is that Linux is Unix, and thus the Unix books of yore just need a new cover and a light edit. WHo knows, maybe K&R could stage a comeback.

To: Kiriakos Georgiou who wrote (4639)	2/26/2000 1:27:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5102

If publications are an excellent metric, then java has long surpassed C++. But for some reason the major apps are still written in C++ (add VB and Delphi under windows). Publications are an artifact of Java's popularity, as they have been for C++ and Visual Basic in years past. This demand is also reflected in Java tools and training. Do you think that users care what language is used? Does that help explain why the industry isn't starting over on these multi year development efforts when 90% of machines out there run Windows software? Try using a little common sense. The fact is, Java is dominating new development despite the monopoly of Windows. Major applications are being written for use on networks and internets (or intranets if you prefer the fictitious marketing babble) and they are being written in Java. Despite the Internet, most software developers are maintaining and/or extending existing software assets; the abject ignorance regarding Java's dominance by some of our resident form builders is therefore excusable.