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To: Steve Lee who wrote (76518)	2/24/2000 7:43:00 PM
From: Michael Bakunin	Respond to of 132070

From Slashdot, moderated up to 5: slashdot.org; Chapter11Bus Memory (Score:5, Informative) by Jikes (jikes@myrealbox.SPAM.com) on Saturday February 19, @03:11PM EST (#19) (User Info) Rambus is a design for a memory system from Rambus Inc. It is extraordinarily fast on paper. Intel chose their design and decided to support it on a lot of their new products. The implementation took a long time to get around to getting around. It is now here. Intel bet a LOT on Rambus, because it would give them significant control over a lot of markets. (IE: They own rambus designs) Rambus is significantly different from the DRAM used commonly today. It requires changes to how stuff is laid out on the motherboard. And it is manufactured differently, to very demanding tolerances. It is now in production and is competing with DDR-DRAM, which uses existing manufacturing processes, generally works with existing chipsets, and is easy to support. And it doesn't require a fan setup for the memory alone. And runs far cooler. And gives almost as good performance when set up correctly as a RAMBUS setup. And is also capable of being manufactured in quantity, whereas RDRAM is extremely difficult to manufacture. DDRDRAM is also about a fifth of the cost of a RDRAM setup. You do the math, and read up on it a bit.. I think you will agree that for all intents and purposes (read: mainstream pcs, servers, et al), Rambus is DOA. Toodles. :D Troll? Point? Yes! :D Worth a thought and a read of the thread. Also see slashdot.org -mb

To: Steve Lee who wrote (76518)	2/24/2000 9:32:00 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

steve, who told you rdram was less expensive?

To: Steve Lee who wrote (76518)	2/25/2000 11:37:00 AM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

Steve, TA is superstition so I never use it. DDR is faster than Rambus and sells at about 1/4 the cost. Samsung owns the RDRAM market and these other cos. are just spending the money Intel used to bribe them. They are not really ramping up on their own nickles. Rambus is only useful for high end pcs, the kinds where the growth rate is sinking into the sea. It is way too expensive for low end, the kind with high unit growth. Intel has a huge investment in Rambus, one of the many reasons that AMD is handing them their head on a platter, stealing market share faster than any co. in history. However, even Intel did not include Rambus in next generation talks with the DRAM makers. All of the memory players have announced that they will not use Rambo in servers or workstations, leaving them a very small niche player. Even worse, a high cost niche player. Rambus is suing a DRAM maker, Hitachi, and the industry is backing Hitachi. They do not want to put money in the pocket of this potential profit killing co. The high end business pc market is deader than a doornail.