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To: rudedog who wrote (28271)	2/24/2000 8:06:00 PM
From: QwikSand	Respond to of 64865

I've never thought doing anything with source code is an interesting remedy in any case. I'm not sure a real-world remedy is possible, or financially feasible, but I've always been convinced that since the problem is Microsoft's business practices, the remedy must directly address those practices. I posted here when the original finding of fact came out that my remedy would be to open an office of federal bureaucrats in Redmond, funded by M$FT not by tax dollars, who would measure every business deal against a set of standards developed by the court and have broad powers to veto or limit (or unlimit) deals. Now THAT's what would make me holler. Talk about a "death penalty", hee hee hee. I'm sure M$FT would prefer a breakup. --QS

To: rudedog who wrote (28271)	2/24/2000 8:44:00 PM
From: David Kelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

>>since NT was hardly mentioned in the DOJ proceedings and the finding of fact is done<< The case involves anything MS does with it's ill gotten gains. In fact, that is what the case is about. MS is a monopolist and they used the income from that monopoly to gain entre into other markets that they otherwise couldn't have, e.g. W2k. The admitted billions of dollars spent on W2k couldn't have happened except for their monopoly on the desktop. Therefore W2k and anything else MS has done is certainly in play whatever that could mean. As always, IMHO. I still highly recommend reading "The New New Thing" by Michael Lewis. The book is about Jim Clark, founder of SGI, Netscape and Healtheon, it contains the facts about the DOJ case from Netscape's POV. It is interesting, enlightening, shocking and hilarious. Two thumbs up way up. david

To: rudedog who wrote (28271)	2/24/2000 8:57:00 PM
From: JC Jaros	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

JC apparently does not understand that the "hairball" is Windows95 and 98, not NT - The hairball in question is any M$ desktop OS with an integrated browser. At least, that'd be my understanding. That's what they're about to remedy here, right? I'm quite sure there isn't a lack of motivated software engineers willing to safari into the Windows codebase, Rudedog. You'll note RedHat's first big move was to acquire Cygnus. Corel's was to augment their Win API pathologists with WINE. Each Linux distro is working some interop angle so that the free OS can run legacy apps. What do the Linux CEOs think would level the playing field for consumers on the desktop? A: Full documentation (source code). If you don't need Windows to run legacy Windows software, you don't need Windows. -JCJ