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To: iandiareii who wrote (12591)	2/25/2000 3:55:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Do you remember the tv program "Kate and Allie"? They were not lovers, but had "blended families", in an effort to share expenses and domestic workloads. Why should a childless lesbian couple get all of these benefits you list, but not Kate and Allie? And if Kate and Allie, how do we decide when the household meets the criterion, and ceases to do so? Should we require Kate and Allie to get married, and then divorced? If so, does that mean they have to commit to staying together, even though both were dating, and in the market for remarriage? Well, I guess it is all simply a matter of discrimination.......

To: iandiareii who wrote (12591)	2/25/2000 4:05:00 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

In all the talk I've never heard how society will be better off if same sex marriages are recognized. All I hear is blagher about fairness and rights. Change will come and society will be better for it.

To: iandiareii who wrote (12591)	2/25/2000 4:45:00 PM
From: Bill	Respond to of 769670

"Although many lesbian and gay couples are in long-term relationships, and undertake responsibilities toward one another just as married couples do, they are denied the vast array of legal, economic, and practical protections that married couples enjoy. Among these are the rights to: - share such government benefits as Social Security and Medicare - file joint tax returns and get special marriage or family rates or exemptions - have joint parenting, adoption, foster care, custody, and visitation - obtain joint insurance policies for home and auto, as well as family health coverage - inherit automatically in the absence of a will - secure equitable division of property and determine child custody and support in case of divorce - obtain veterans' discounts on medical care, education, and housing loans - enter jointly into rental leases with automatic renewal rights - make medical decisions on a partner's behalf in the event of illness - choose a final resting place for a deceased partner - take bereavement or sick leave to care for partner or child - receive spousal exemptions to property tax increases upon the death of a partner - obtain wrongful death benefits for a surviving partner and children - apply for immigration and residency for partners from other countries - obtain domestic violence protection orders - visit a partner or child in the hospital, and other public institutions" That's comical, really. Most of those "rights" can be obtained easily through standard legal documents like a will, living will or power of attorney. $1200 and you're off to the races. Some others are just plain wrong, like protection orders. Anyone can get one. The others, like tax breaks, well, tough cookies. Nobody ever said the tax code was fair. Nobody. Your argument is getting even weaker.