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To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (4053)	2/27/2000 4:11:00 PM
From: w molloy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5195

What a load of Bollocks! Your disinformation is brazen. WAP is NOT supported by all players (read ERICY announcement on RCRnews today). I suggest you search the ERICY website. I found 1952 WAP related press releases alone Try out these for size ericsson.se Ericsson offers end-to-end WAP solution for the mobile Internet Date: Friday, February 4 2000 Ericsson, Postbank and Libertel in mobile stock trading via WAP Date: Wednesday, February 2 2000 etc Seconly, WAP has everything to do with TDD. What the heck do you think data downloads are going to speak to? Certainly not thin air! They need the software (or similar construct) in place first and the bugs worked out in order for any data overlay technology to work. The software standard (WAP) must first be accepted and introduced in order for HDR or TDD to operate. 1. WAP is airlink agnostic. It will work equally well with HDR or TDD ... 2. HDR and TDD can work just fine without WAP. WAP is an adjunct to a standard data protocol stack. Ever heard of TCP/IP? SLIP? PPP? CDPD (the AMPS based data protocol) is deployed today without WAP. Do you know what WAP is? Enlighten us with an explanation because it's not clear to me that we are talking about the same thing. The Amazon deal is just another example of Nokia's effort and example of groundbreaking to standardization its own WAP version. WAP is and open standard. If Amazon built its websites along the alledged NOK version, how would other WAP 'phones access the site? For the non-techie lurkers, I'll answer Durrel's original, misleading, posting (the linking the NOK AMZN press release to IDC) next week, and include a dictionary of the alphabet soup that is being used by Durrel to fog the issues. w.

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (4053)	2/27/2000 4:20:00 PM
From: Bux	Respond to of 5195

What? First, I didn't say "all" players supported WAP, I said "nearly all". Why misstate what I have said and then take exception to it? Because that is your mode of operation. At least you are consistent. Seconly, WAP has everything to do with TDD. What the heck do you think data downloads are going to speak to? Certainly not thin air! They need the software (or similar construct) in place first and the bugs worked out in order for any data overlay technology to work. The software standard (WAP) must first be accepted and introduced in order for HDR or TDD to operate. You are so wrong here it's not even funny. Today I use my IS-95 CDMA phone to connect to the internet and surf the web. There are no restrictions on which addresses I visit or the kind of content I can view. I do this at 14.4Kbps, if I had HDR it would be much faster (not dis-functional as you claim), all this I do without WAP. It uses TCP/IP and other common protocols. WAP is just a version of these existing protocols designed to improve connectivity with low-bandwidth connections. What kind of asinine statement is "WAP must first be introduced and accepted for HDR or TDD to operate?" DuH! Who do you think you are trying to fool? Oh, and when you respond, make sure you change around my statements and then create a whole different argument in an attempt to distance yourself from your original illogical statements. Bux

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (4053)	2/27/2000 10:02:00 PM
From: George Leeper	Respond to of 5195

bux you don't make much sense. jeff

To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (4053)	2/27/2000 11:29:00 PM
From: Gus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5195

Since Nokia's early data overlay version will include TDD functionality programmed toward it's improved version of WAP, it could control the path toward 3g ASIC standardization. LOL. You have to spell it out very slowly for these narrowminded narrowband zealots. But what about the differences between CDMA2000 and WCDMA? If the goal of IMT-2000 is a single worldwide standard, can these two versions of CDMA be harmonized into a single standard? That is the very question being addressed by the CDMA Operators Harmonization Group that is developing the Global 3G CDMA standard (G3G). Since there are some irreconcilable differences between CDMA2000 and WCDMA in the radio portion, the approach is a modular architecture as shown in Figure 4. This approach allows any of three airlink technologies to be used in a network, including WCDMA, 3XRTT... and a time-division duplex form of spread spectrum. ...In addition to the three types of airlinks, the architecture recognizes that network infrastructures may be based on either GSM-MAP protocols or ANSI-41 protocols. G3G will give operators flexibility in choosing the airlink and network infrastructure that best addresses their particular needs. The Evolution of Cellular Data: On the Road to 3G Peter Rysavy gsmdata.com I don't think its North European neighbor, Ericsson, is fully aware of the kind of monumental roll that Nokia is demonstrating in 2G, but Nokia is also projected by some analysts to grab 40% of the early 3G market in Western Europe and Japan so any independent and diligent investor who can think for himself or herself can make the reasonable inference that if it succeeds, Nokia can indeed influence the product development of DSP powerhouses like Texas Instrument that leads the industry in fixed and programmable DSPs and which currently has an aggressive program to integrate RISC cores with DSP cores with a range of sub-micron processes starting from 0.30 micron to 0.11 (2002). Both Nokia and Ericsson, by the way, have already adopted TXN's OMAP architecture.