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To: Mani1 who wrote (95895)2/29/2000 4:31:00 PM
From: Epinephrine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572931
 
RE: <You've heard all the hype from the Intel camp, but tomorrow you can hear what AMD has to say exclusively on ZDNet UK News >

Mani,

Arrgh! This makes me want to sell some of my AMD position. (I am being a lot more serious than you might think.) As I said to Darbes earlier I like the guy and maybe the fact that he is willing to talk (or that the PR guys will let him talk) is a hint that AMD is confident that they are doing well enough to make positive statements without risking shareholder lawsuits but in my humble opinion Jerry should continue to keep his mouth tight shut. In fact that should be his motto, kinda like a takeoff on the Tom Cruise / Nicole Kidman movie. "Jerry Sanders: Mouth tight shut" Hehe :)

Thanks,

Epinephrine



To: Mani1 who wrote (95895)2/29/2000 5:26:00 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572931
 
In a frank Eye2Eye interview, Sanders responds to comments made by Michael Dell to Barry last month about compatibility. He also sets out the company's long-term goals and explains why Itanium, Intel's long awaited 64-bit architecture, has presented AMD with a golden opportunity.

Mani,

Just when I thought it was safe to buy more......will be selling first thing in the AM.

ted



To: Mani1 who wrote (95895)2/29/2000 6:34:00 PM
From: crazyoldman  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572931
 
Hello Mani,

Re: Intel's long awaited 64-bit architecture

I must be getting old <hehe>. Back in the days of 16-bit operating systems, it was a real challenge to do things: unsigned integers size up to 65535, 64K of code space, 64K of data space. I remember doing some pretty radical things to work around such constraints. The previous world of 8-bit machines was even worse with their ability to count all the way from 0 to 255.

During the last days of DOS, I was amazed to be able to get to the "land" of flat 32-bit memory by using DOS extenders. Today we have the 32-bit luxury of unsigned ints which can exceed 4 billion in value, if we want more memory from the OS, we just ask for it and it's available in huge quantities.

Now the buzz is 64-bit processors and OS's. As an application programmer, I for one am not drooling in anticipation. The removal of integer value limitations of 65535 and replacing with limitations over 4 billion in value allowed me to loop anything I've ever needed to loop. It allows me to "count" everything except the national debt. The removal of code and data segments and their replacement with hassle free flat memory was a great and worthy achievement.

I'm sure there's need for 64-bit machines and applications, but I can't see the 64-bit world revolutionizing things like the 32-bit world did. 32-bits just seems to fit mankind's needs.

When Intel moved from the 8-bit world to the 16-bit world, their 16-bit chips (the 8088???) could execute the old 8-bit programs that existed at that time. That eased the transition to the 16-bit world and let 16-bit applications be written in due time. When the movement from 16-bit to 32-bit came along (80286 to 80386???), a similar approach was taken and once again, that approached worked.

I'm surprised that Intel chose to try the quantum leap to 64-bit OS's and 64-bit applications for their Itanium(applications written with highly optimized compilers that don't now exist). Could it be they forgot their past? What happens to the Itanium if the 64-bit applications don't reach critical mass? Will there be enough server only demand to justify this chip?

I seems to me the only explanation for the quantum leap approach to 64-bit is to once again reinvent computing, i.e. by changing the landscape so fast that the competition will be left in the dust. Intel's competitors spent most of the past in Intel's dust for similar reasons.

As an AMD long I really like AMD's SledgeHammer approach to 64-bits. To me it makes as much sense as Intel's approaches from 8 to 16-bit and from 16 to 32-bit have the past. I'm glad we got it!!! I'm even surprised we got it!!! But the really good new is we got it!!!

Kindest regard,
CrazyMan



To: Mani1 who wrote (95895)2/29/2000 6:52:00 PM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572931
 
Mani Re..<<<<<<<RE: <A clear picture of the dirty tricks of the industry are also laid out, offering a unique insight behind the scenes of what Sanders and his team are up against in fighting the "800lb gorilla". >>>>>>

Mani, what dirty tricks? Are Intellabies Paul and Elmer the dirty tricks Sanders is talking about?



To: Mani1 who wrote (95895)2/29/2000 9:14:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Respond to of 1572931
 
Mani - RE: "It's not often Jerry Sanders speaks to the press. When he does, he's usually rushed off by a swarm of PR bodies before he has a chance to say something controversial."

I wonder if that is true!

AMD better have staffed extra PR people to field questions after that article get published tomorrow!