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To: epicure who wrote (75371)3/1/2000 1:22:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 108807
 
No, that's not the source that Gersh's source cited yesterday, which was Liberation Army Daily, "the official newspaper of the People's Liberation Army." Here is the link for the PLA daily, but it's in Chinese (I assume Mandarin, but I don't know):

pladaily.com.cn



To: epicure who wrote (75371)3/1/2000 1:27:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 108807
 
Posted this on the Clown thread, but didn't want you to miss it, the caption says "We will surely liberate Taiwan!"

geocities.com:80/CapitolHill/Lobby/7663/ke_tlibs.jpg



To: epicure who wrote (75371)3/1/2000 1:40:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
OK, I've confirmed the Washington Times story in another source, although I don't know anything about the source, muzi.com, which claims to be "independent."

>>[Muzi News (http://dailynews.muzi.com): 2000-02-28] BEIJING -- China
warned the United States on Monday that it would pay a high price for
any military intervention over Taiwan, saying it had the weapons to launch
a long-range counter-attack, AFP reported.
The warning in the army newspaper PLA Daily coincided with a visit by
Admiral Dennis Blair, commander of US Pacific forces, who was due to
hold talks with Chinese military officials on issues including Taiwan
Monday.
It also came as press reports in Hong Kong said Chinese President Jiang
Zemin had issued an alert for People's Liberation Army (PLA) forces
including those on the coast along the Taiwan Strait.

Professor Zhu Chenghu, deputy director of the army university's institute
of strategic studies, said in the PLA Daily article the United States would
do well to steer clear of conflict over Taiwan.

"If they get involved, the American policy makers will have to consider the
great pressure they will shoulder and the high costs they will pay," he said.
"China is not Iraq, nor Yugoslavia ... she is a country with certain strategic
attack capabilities and far distance attacking capabilities. So it would not
be wise to fight against a country like China." Zhu's comments across a whole page of the military's official newspaper
was flanked by menacing pictures of Chinese military excercises last year
simulating an invasion of Taiwan.

He also warned the United States that any intervention over Taiwan would
severely damage its relations with other Asian countries.

"It will seriously damage its economic interests. And if the United States
got involved in the conflict, the war could not be ended according to the
timetable set by the US.
"US security interests in East Asia will be seriously damaged, and
American forces may be forced to withdraw, like they did from Vietnam,"
said Zhu. Tension over Taiwan has been steadily growing since China last week
issued a new policy paper warning the island it would face an invasion if it
continued to reject reunfication through dialogue. Taiwan responded to the threats with defiance, while the United States in
turn warned Beijing against pursuing the military option. The war of words comes ahead of the March 18 presidential elections in
Taiwan, and analysts have viewed the bellicose rhetoric emanating from
Beijing as a thinly-veiled attempt to intimidate voters and candidates. Ahead of the 1996 elections in Taiwan, which has been ruled separately
from the mainland since 1949, Beijing carried out large-scale military
exercises off Taiwanese waters.The United States responded by sending two naval battle carrier groups
to the area.<<



To: epicure who wrote (75371)3/1/2000 7:22:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Respond to of 108807
 
Yesterday when I picked Joey up from school I spoke with a couple of Taiwanese fellows - there is a major Taiwanese business presence here - and they had some interesting comments. Both were completely convinced that China has no intention of actually invading. They said it was "just words", "political talk", and that this happens all the time, this exchange of Taiwanese declaration and Chinese threat. Both believe that over the last decade, despite all the political bristling, there has actually been a major relaxation of tension. One made the interesting comment that all we have to do is maintain the status quo until "the olds" in the Chinese administration die off, then the whole issue can be dealt with reasonably.

Neither made any comment that suggested that they though US military support was desirable; the prevailing attitude seemed to be that anything that would trigger more emotion would be undesirable.

Both are engineers for Acer, pretty well educated and pretty well aware of what's going on.