Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Joe NYC who wrote (96144)	3/1/2000 6:58:00 PM
From: Epinephrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575955

Jozef, <In ideal world you are right. But what if you only need 1/4 of the power of the box to run the database.> Any company that is running a database large enough to need 64 bits wouldn't only be using 1/4 of the power of the server and if they did start to use more than 1/2 of the power of the server on a regular basis they would probably add another server to bring down peak capacity demand, the faster the server and the more power it has the better. <...and your app may have a middle tier component, custom developped in say Java, VB or VC++ (all 32 bit). Suppose this also needs only say 1/4 of the power of the CPU.> Your question actually says it all (middle tier). You don't want to run your middle tier components on your backend database server. <Also, you may have need web server, also needing only a fraction of the power. Would you buy 3 boxes, OS licenses, UPSs, add failover machine to each box, resulting now in 6 boxes?> I sure would, this is a production system we are talking about here, a system that is heavy enough and intensive enough to need 64 bit addressing and the bandwidth to match. Anyone who needs 64bits isn't hocking together some system with all of their n-tiered architecture lumped together on one server that they tax to 100% for budgetary reasons. <In extreme case, this may be needed. But in the real world, you may have a hard time justifying the budget for all of this.> 64 bits is extreme, if a company is going to 64 bits just to have the latest thing then you may have a point but in the real world any company that needs 64 bits isn't going to have a problem with exclusively running their database on a dedicated server which brings me back to my original question... If I have a 64 bit database running on a 64 bit OS on a dedicated server what do I need 32 bits for? Thanks, Epinephrine

To: Joe NYC who wrote (96144)	3/2/2000 2:29:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575955

Joe - Re: "In ideal world you are right. But what if you only need 1/4 of the power of the box to run the database, and your app may have a middle tier component, custom developped in say Java, VB or VC++ (all 32 bit). Suppose this also needs only say 1/4 of the power of the CPU. Also, you may have need web server, also needing only a fraction of the power. Would you buy 3 boxes, OS licenses, UPSs, add failover machine to each box, resulting now in 6 boxes? In extreme case, this may be needed. But in the real world, you may have a hard time justifying the budget for all of this." Are you serious - or just plain IGNORANT ? How do you think SUN has become a compan with $13 BILLION in sales and a market cap of $171 Billion ? They sell HUGE 64 BIT SERVERS for well over $100,000 a piece! You keep living in Cyrix MediaGX land. Is that all you can relate to? Paul