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To: Elmer who wrote (96190)	3/1/2000 10:52:00 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571405

Re: "Jozef, please don't take this personally because it's not meant for just you but people here have been told for months that MUCH higher frequencies were coming from CuMine. Nobody believed it. People here were told about a single fab making a million CuMines in a single week and nobody believes it. Willamette showed that Intel had a combination of process technology and circuitry that could run at 3GHz and Scumbria called them "incredibly slimy" to even claim 1.5GHz. Andy Grove said Intel was shipping 1GHz production material and you still don't believe it. There is a desperate need to cling to the belief that AMD has a generation lead on Intel and there is nothing Intel can do short of Willamette to close that gap. Even Jerry claimed today that Athlon beat CuMine in every single benchmark clock for clock, a claim that not even the most zealous AMDite would make. I understand the need to cling to that hope but it's just plain wrong. Just like for Jerry, the unthinkable is happening right before your eyes and you will continue to deny it's even happening." Elmer - When you write your posts, how do you manage to get the violin music to play in the background??? THE WATSONYOUTH

To: Elmer who wrote (96190)	3/1/2000 10:58:00 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1571405

Elmer, Maybe you need to re-read the article. Some highlights: Consumers and dealers have complained for a number of months that they cannot find enough of Intel's fastest Pentium IIIs. And you think this was our imagination. Did I tell you that the only 800 MHz Coppermine system (HP) has been replaced with 800 MHz Athlon systems on the shelves of CompUSA? These systems are actually for sale, not just for demonstration? The 1-GHz systems, therefore, could be a tight commodity. HP might* start shipping these computers,* Might? but only a few customers will get their hands on them. Maybe the plan is to place these computers strategically in retail stores, hang a sign saying "not for sale, for demonstration only" and run the CPUID utility. Volume production and sales of 1-GHz Pentium III systems is expected by the third quarter, according to Howard High, an Intel spokesman. Another Intel spokesman said that systems will appear shortly. When the 750 and 800 MHz parts were released, they didn't give all these warnings. In fact Intel pretended that everything was fine. Just that the demand was higher than expected. Now they give all these warnings, saying that you can't really buy these chips. So what kind of availability do you expect? Of course, the value of these systems will be largely symbolic. Intel is still slated to come out with 866-MHz and a 933-MHz versions of the Pentium III. So there are no 850, 866, 933 MHz chips but there are 1 GHz chips. Intersting... Joe