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To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/2/2000 8:06:00 PM
From: changedmyname  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
leave it up to the cats. Let 'em duke it out... if the conservative one wins... keep your job.

But seriously... if you have to ask others... you probably shouldn't do it... you'll be too nervous trying to live day to day and wondering if you can pay the phone bill next week. IMO, true daytraders (not a flash-in-the-pan), are a rare breed... and not... for everyone. I asked no questions when I quit my job... I just wanted to do it... and didn't fear the consequences.

Good luck...

Jason



To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/2/2000 8:45:00 PM
From: JOED3  Respond to of 108040
 
FWIW - I'm doing it and couldn't be happier. It's just there for the taking.

Joe Dilschneider



To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/2/2000 10:26:00 PM
From: Frederick Langford  Respond to of 108040
 
G&J,

If not now, when?
Under 30, no responsibilities except 2 cats!
2 years living expenses...
Nothing stopping you from taking a shot, life is short...

Two suggestions for your consideration:
1. Put a relatively conservative amount of money in your trading account, separate from your checking and savings.
DO NOT ADD TO IT. If by chance you should lose it, Do not replenish, go back to the day job <promise this to yourself>
2. Know thyself. Which way will you sleep better? It's all about emotion, perception and self-discipline.

Good luck what ever you decide...

Fred
Fred@olderthang&j.com



To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/2/2000 10:33:00 PM
From: stan s.  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108040
 
Risk, reward. What's the downside vs the upside? In your case the upside rewards seem to far outweigh the risks. You have money to live on, youth, limited responsibilities and probably a career awaiting should you ever need it.

Rewards... possible riches and the accompanying benefits while you're young enough to enjoy. But probably more importantly is the potential creation of time, simply calling your own shots and having the chance to pursue some things you enjoy.

Risks...having to return to a job. At worst you lose some time and a rung or two on the ladder of success. Not impossible setbacks to make up at your age.

The only real questions are these, are you stable enough to ride out the inevitable difficult days and are you a good short term trader, i.e., are you prepared to alter strategies as the markets change etc.

The answer to the second question appears to be yes, if you base it on last year's performance, the answer to the first, only you can answer...

If too much time passes, without trying for the things that bring you happiness, you'll pay for it, somewhere, somehow.

Best of luck.

Stan



To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/3/2000 6:50:00 AM
From: swisstrader  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
gizmo: apologies for the late response...best to have your cake and eat it too...why give up either?...day job represents stability, climbing the corp ladder, retirement funds, 401K, etc; trading is lucrative, exciting and great fun...what you MUST do is simply tweak your trading mentality to be less momo plays and more focus on longer term stuff you really know and love and hence, no need to piss off the boss and check every 10 nonseconds on a trade...I have/had a similar dilemma (great, well paying job, love for and terrific profits in my trades)...however, my choice has been to keep the day job and as your mgt suggests, have cooled the trading down quite a bit...very few momos, except when time REALLY permits and amazingly so, my profits since this decision have been BETTER than from the days of chasing or swing trading...when I hit a certain magic number, I do plan to retire early and move to either AZ, Hawaii or Bermuda, and either set up a hedge fund with a couple buddies or simply trade for my own account and golf my head off...but not until I hit that number and until I do, nice to know someone is taking care of paying the bills...further, everyone's a hero (i.e., makin money) while we're in a bull market...the second someone turns the spigot off, you'll be left high and dry and potentially losing money, in addition to not making a steady income...I've had loads of fantasies about dumpin the day job, but think that double dipin makes so much more sense...also, while I greatly respect your trading style, the streets are littered with folks who thought they could make a go of all this and are now either on the bread lines or in the papers for all sorts of nastiness...you're a smart dude, you'll make the right decision and sometimes fate and destiny will force your hand one way or another...don't try to force that youself...hope that helps (just a little)!



To: gizmo&jack who wrote (81772)3/3/2000 7:40:00 PM
From: To_A_Million  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108040
 
Hey G&J, Here's a thought. Keep trading at work like a boiler-room maniac on speed until they actually threaten to fire you again. Hey, the fast connection and the coffee are free, right? Show those SOBs how much their idle threats really scare you! You probably have at least one more warning (a month or so at best), and an additional few weeks as they file the paperwork! In the meantime, steal as many office supplies as possible, for use in your home office (focus on the good stuff, though - Bic pens cost about $1 for a dozen, but a hard drive ain't cheap! Just remember, home wiring a trading desk is tough, so if you can get some good coax, a Pentium III 700 motherboard and even a DSL modem, you have scored BIG!) On your way out the door, after "accidentally" flooding the men's room, head over to Office Depot, get some discarded receipts for your "borrowed" office supplies and voila' - instant free writeoff! George Castanza would be proud!

This is, of course, a joke!!

I have considered daytrading, but have found it healthier for myself to interact with live people in a job that gets me out of the house and office, and away from this small-print money-generating contraption they call a PC. I am in sales, and I actually enjoy helping customers solve their problems with our solutions. On days that suck, though, I find myself glued to Schwab and SI!

If you are spending more time thinking about (and doing) trading than you are working, then perhaps this job ain't the right one?

Good luck with it! Your insight has helped me make some decisions that have made money for me and my family, and for that I am grateful! I sincerely hope that you continue here with us at SI.

TAM