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Pastimes : Murder Mystery: Who Killed Yale Student Suzanne Jovin? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: James R. Barrett who wrote (512)	3/4/2000 8:08:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1397

Um, is it because I live in Europe??? I'm sure you've seen hundreds of men wearing them. I've never seen anyone wearing anything of the kind. And do you STILL not get my point about carbon steel? Do YOU have any carbon steel knives? Believe me, they're extremely difficult to find nowadays. Twenty years ago I had to hit practically every coltelleria in Milan before I found my Henckel.

To: James R. Barrett who wrote (512)	3/4/2000 8:10:00 PM
From: Janice Shell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1397

Also the blood would have poured down her windpipe and prevented her from screaming. I don't think so. Cut the carotid, blood spurts all over the place, twenty feet, even. That's what "blood pressure" is all about.

To: James R. Barrett who wrote (512)	3/5/2000 12:58:00 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1397

I don't know where the cops got the idea that the killer had to know Suzanne just because the killer stabbed her 17 times. The killer stabbed her 17 times simply because she did not die right away after the first three or four stabs to the head and back. She was probably screaming and trying to run while he was stabbing her. Suzanne was found with her feet in the road and her body on the grass between the road and the sidewalk. If she had been running, there would have been blood drops in the street. There were none. In fact, there are no reports of blood anywhere but on Suzanne and under her body in the spot where she lay. As I've said before, the only other possible explanation for this might be that she turned her back, started to walk away, the killer stabbed her in the back of the head, she fell right to the ground, he jumped on top of her and kept stabbing away, then slit her throat. I'm ruling out that he might have slit her throat first because the pressure would have spurted the blood all over the place (for which there is no evidence). In both scenarios I have a hard time envisioning how she could have fallen in a heap. Where are the grass stains? Bruises? Could one blow from a 4-5 inch knife do that? I also just can't see someone jumping on top of and stabbing a limp body in the head 15 more times. If she wasn't limp she'd have obviously tried, perhaps even instinctively, to cover her head with her hands. Recall there are no defensive wounds. Again, I can only envision Suzanne being killed in a car. I can only envision her being restrained face down in the back seat while someone in a matter of seconds got off a series of blows that stunned her and incapacitated her before she knew what hit her. Furthermore, I can't see how one person could have done this, especially if we're now talking about the killing being done in a car. If there was more than one person involved, I highly doubt Suzanne knew her killers let alone that this might have been a crime of passion. - Jeff