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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (14949)	3/11/2000 8:57:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Look. You seemed to think (ie, you said) that the problem Bush had was a language "etiquette" one, and you seemed to think we agreed on that. I attempted to convince you that the problem was not one of MANNERS, or of FORM, but of MENTAL/CONCEPTUAL/LINGUISTIC COMPETENCE. Those are two entirely different categories. It is like saying Clinton has an "etiquette" problem. Some problems go deeper than etiquette. You characterized Bush as having an etiquette problem, PROLIFE. I explained, more than once, why it was NOT that. You now take me to task for not answering the question as though you had used a word other than "etiquette"-- one that you "meant," as you put it. But the reason, PROLIFE, that I addressed what you said, is that I had already addressed what you are now apparently implying you MEANT! I characterized the problem. You proceeded to RE-characterize it as one merely of "etiquette." Oh... I just got it. I know what happened. I think you did, after all, understand from the beginning that Bush's problem was not a matter of etiquette, but -- using the word "etiquette" was simply a way of euphemizing, and cosmetizing, and trivializing, his handicap. Because clearly "etiquette" lapses are minor things, not relevant to the intellectual competence of Bush Jr. to become the most powerful man on earth; to formulate and carry out our foreign policy; to represent our country to the world and its leaders. PROLIFE, you didn't mean "etiquette" at all, but said it, not as a "mistake" that I "snobbed" poor, poor-little-you on but intentionally. You used the word to dismiss my discussion of W's weird linguistic/conceptual confusion. You want to have your cake and eat it too, don't you, PROLIFE! You wanted to dismiss your candidate's lapses as mere "etiquette," because it suited your purpose, but, when taken at your word, you whine, "You knew what I meant!"-- because I should have addressed not what you said, but what I had ALREADY addressed! I should have, in other words, given again the very argument that you were trying to dismiss by the very use of the word "etiquette"! I was a little slow on the uptake, but I did figure it out. Better late than never. PROLIFE, you don't mean what you say, and you mean what you don't say, reversing meanings for reasons of ideological convenience. In addition, there is something deeply repellent to me in the gratuitous phrases you choose to utter, plucked out of nowhere except the recesses of your cliche-stocked brain. The following, for example, is irrelevant to anything I have ever said, and contains a strange amount of free floating, inappropriate ire. It comes from internal processes that you bring here dying to vent however inapplicable to the discussion: His father? Oh Lord forbid he should be close to his father.I know the dems would rather it take a village....or two mommies maybe? Nothing could have been less of a sequitur to the preceding discussion. "Dems"? Hillary? Lesbians? Are you mad, woman? I am neither a Democrat nor a Hillary fan nor a lesbian. What's WITH you? This is also repellent to me for the same reason: Sounds plenty Dem to me...right down to calling me not a nice person..(very readable as mean,huh?)haha . I am surprised you did not say "mean spirited".... You have that Dem way of shifting blame too..... The bottom line is, I perceive something unwholesome in you that I do not want to be touched by further. I won't be replying to your posts again.