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To: Road Walker who wrote (100762)	3/12/2000 7:24:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"Sony has the advantage of the first to market with this specialized game/DVD/Internet device. I think that Sony can and will react to whatever Microsoft does, probably before Microsoft can get to retail shelves. Consumer electronics is Sony's core business, this is an adventure for Microsoft.".... Wasn't the MAC here before Windows? Wasn't Netscape established before Internet Explorer? Weren't Nintendo and Atari established before Playstation? Seems to me that it all depends on the software MS provides..... Jim

To: Road Walker who wrote (100762)	3/13/2000 2:24:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

John - Re: "I don't think so. The PS2 is a consumer electronics product, where Sony has infinitely more experience than Microsoft. They have relationships in the distribution channels, they have the marketing experience, and they have been known to occasionally bring products, that work consistently, to market on time. Sony has the advantage of the first to market with this specialized game/DVD/Internet device. I think that Sony can and will react to whatever Microsoft does, probably before Microsoft can get to retail shelves. Consumer electronics is Sony's core business, this is an adventure for Microsoft." All your arguments make sense - and I can't argue with them. However, having "personally" experienced (as a BUYER - not a USER) the Sony PlayStation - Nintendo 64 - Sega DreamCast, I have observed the following: 1. The Hardware/Console prices rapidly become cheap to the point of absurdity. 2. Kids/Gamers/Parents essentially can buy any given console - and in fact, end up BUYING THEM ALL - just to play whatever HIT GAME that happens to be in vogue. There is LITTLE or NO LOYALTY to a given platform. None. The GAMES are the "thing". If Microsoft and its allies can produce a good selection of games, they can make a big penetration into the market - and they don't have to defeat any of the existing console manufacturers to make it happen. A point of reference - these game consoles are now selling for the same amount of money as it takes to fill up the gas tank on a full size Sedan or SUV ! Paul

To: Road Walker who wrote (100762)	3/13/2000 3:16:00 PM
From: Alan Hume	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

John, you state very diplomtically "this is an adventure for Microsoft." I think it is far more than this; I think that they realise that the bastion of WINTEL market domination position is being seriously threatened. The "black box" announcement has obviously been forced. it is way too early, lacking detail, and from I can understand, the nebulous description of the product given looks very pale against that which SONY already has. How can a PIII based machine hope to compare in performance to a parallel pair of 64 bit machines? No way in my opinion Alan