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To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (6422)3/12/2000 10:19:00 PM
From: who cares?  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18222
 
Dude if you are such a T/A genius then why didn't you sell out, since it was gigantically overdone. Check the chart Ronald, this thing sold off huge on Thursday all on it's own, without anything from Anthony or Pluvia. Greed kept you in. Friday it actually gapped up at the open. Greed kept you in.
No one screwed you out of millions except your own greed, the sooner you accept that, the closer you'll be to being a man. As for filling gaps, I see three that have been filled, and my lava lamp tells me that minimum 2 more get filled. The lava lamp is a much more reliable prognosticating tool than a bunch of T/A mumbo jambalay.

CMB



To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (6422)3/12/2000 10:26:00 PM
From: rogermci®  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18222
 
Evening Ronbo

No one is saying going long is illegal. Just the way you go about it.

Your prescence is to drive the stock up, not to take a long position and let the market deal with it.

The group you chose to hang with has for sometime been under scrutiny. They have a habit of taking long positions then getting out there and hyping them with current info and turning it around as if it were new and that the company wasn't deceiving the public. It's called disinformation.

Now the group you are cohorts with is doing just that but going one step farther. They publicly use the words can't miss, invest now. this is going to $135. That makes your long position a conspiricy and against SEC regulations. In fact you are breaking the law.

Now ronbo, you're part of a long group and you're not looking out for me or the rest of the shortsellers. You're looking out for your bank account. You're cellofane. You're a long trying to drive the price up at the expense of the shortsellers. You will do anything, say anything to get the price up.

Now what makes you a crook and illegal is you come on here and start your stuff. That's what makes the difference between a long and a long crook. Take it to the bank and sleep on it. Most crooks do after they rob someone. Are you just another lazy speculator that feeds off someone elses success???????

Catcha later

Rog




To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (6422)3/12/2000 10:27:00 PM
From: rob g  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18222
 
haven't read this thread since friday afternoon and was horrified to see that i would have to read thru over 600 posts to catch up. i read the first 70 or so before i just hit the "view subjects" button to skip the rest. all i can assume is that the same crap continued all weekend. there must be something better to do with your time, you know, if the stock is worth anything, then the market will reflect that. all the info bad and good is available to anyone willing to do some DD. millions and millions of shares are trading and lots of people don't know what message boards are. A@P has not driven this price down any more than the longs "see ya on the upside" comments have driven it up. the market is bigger than all of us. longs and shorts alike take advantage of this forum to throw out ideas and find new ones. everyone around here is screaming criminal criminal criminal but honestly, i could care less about what a man does years ago that has nothing to do with what he's doing now. i do wonder, because its so rare, when i see a company have spokesmen on a message board to keep up goodwill amongst its shareholders and give away thousands of free shares and then encourage the shareholders to collect their certs. we are longs and we are shorts, we look at info and see what we want. its human nature, unfortunately. only the most objective and emotionless of us make it in this game. so shut up already, everyone, and lets see where the market can take us............whether it be up or down. i am very interested in seeing tomorrows activity.



To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (6422)3/12/2000 11:55:00 PM
From: Erik Lundby  Respond to of 18222
 
So Mr. Margraf,
Do you believe that making a research report making conjectures about how a company will do when you have a position in it is illegal? Sales estimates, success of products, and other infromation? This happens all the time. I can show you hundreds of theese that are also incorrect. Is your presence to take a position and and let the market deal with it? Or is your presence to drive the stock in the direction consistent with your position. You say taking current info and bashing the company with current info is disinformation. This is again not true. Current info is what all research reports contain. When people post why a stock should be bought or sold, The following facts should be obvious. they wan't the stock to go the same direction of there position. This is not wrong. I can garauntee you the following information. If I post that I like a stock I wan't it to go up. I f I post that I don't like a stock. I wan't it to go down. I also want other people to post the reasons they do like a stock long or short. Do not you. this is one way to find other investment ideas and is also not wrong. If I tell you that I like IMCL because they will get there Cancer Drug approved this year. This is not wrong. Even If I am proved wrong. I am simply stating what I believe. It is also not wrong even though I have been long since the low teens. The same holds true for short sales. It is not wrong to post your are short or why you are short or even to issue a "report" detailing why you are short on line. It is the reason we have these investmetn boards so you can share your thoughts with others. I am not currently short and don't yet have a position in this stock. I am also free to post my opinions. Also my statement about IMCL's approval is obvious prognostication. there are some who would think otherwise apparntly but to do so would be foolish. Even though I did not say (I think they will be approved this year), It is obvious prgnostication. Many have said that ECNC's technology will produce billions or that there technology wil not work. Both of these statements are also obvious prognostications. It is very very foolish to take theese statements any other way.

Erik



To: Ronald P. Margraf Sr. who wrote (6422)3/13/2000 9:57:00 AM
From: Jim Spitz  Respond to of 18222
 
Morning Ron,

Exiting a stock is just as important as entering. "Ya gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run" - from The Gambler.

Learn from your mistakes. I started learning with FAMH and when the shorts started knocking ECEC, I left profitably. With less than I could have, but still made a bunch. I was really mad that the shorters started so soon. Of course, Joe Copia is not all that good at timing sometimes. He was the first that I know of on that one.

Stay in the Black! jimS