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To: one_less who wrote (75777)3/14/2000 8:16:00 PM
From: Edwarda  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
OK, I'll give you a break. Male vs Female is another arguement. It is also a trap to argue blank slate vs nature; Anyway, I'll go with the the former (environmental programming) at your request.

LOL! I do not fall into traps easily. We can discuss male vs. female issues and the nature/nurture issue separately, but I can usually spot a red herring a mile away.

This is exactly why I would endorse legislation on the matter.

You are probably not aware that I am libertarian and endorse as little legislation as possible, particularly on matters such as personal behavior.

when you are around me I feel much more comfortable knowing that there is respect for standards of decency in regards to any involvement we may have, deliberate or incidental.

Ah, but who sets the standards that you would endorse legislated? Are not different standards applicable in different environments and situations?

(rolling up my sleeves here)

Attire that you would not find unseemly at a beach (and I am not referring here to the extremely skimpy) might not be in good taste on a city street. Yet I have two questions:

Do you find yourself sexually provoked to an unreasonable degree by a two-piece bathing suit that is well within the norm of acceptable beach attire? Or are you accustomed to seeing women at the beach in bathing suits and so do not find the sight more than an occasional source of pleasure at viewing the attractive?

Do you feel comfortable in surrendering your vision of what is appropriate to others to legislate? Remember the awful battle the Sikhs went through to continue to wear their turbans, which were for them important for religious and personal identity reasons but were deemed inappropriate attire?

In a natural (nudist colony) setting the usual signals afforded by clothing would not be present to interpret.

Clothing is the most obvious but eventually the least important signal. I was chatting yesterday with an internist who told me of a study he had read of "body language" signals that span all cultures. The nearly naked people in remote tribes employ the selfsame "body language" as the sophisticates in the latest trendy spot in LA. It is the gestures, eye contact, physical stance that convey most vividly sexual interest or disinterest.