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To: Earlie who wrote (78048)	3/17/2000 5:20:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 132070

Earlie, I am just glad I've never used my ATM card online. You can only get zapped for $50 on a credit card, but ATMs can get you for $300 if they are stolen. Of course, if my bank is holding back vital info about the risk, such as from which web vendor the cards were stolen, I might have to get my great white shark of a lawyer revved if they ever ask me to pay for something I didn't buy. And he is Amazon, er, I mean amazing. <g>

To: Earlie who wrote (78048)	3/17/2000 6:34:00 PM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Respond to of 132070

You're exactly right to mention firewalls, since it has nothing to do with the secure ordering systems themselves which do prevent someone from snooping during your transactions. These things are rarely a matter of insufficiently strong crypto, it's almost always out of band shenanigans like lack of firewall software, or else it'll be corrupt security personnel, etc. Actually, the french Carte Blue hash code was cracked and posted on a newsgroup, that was cryptographic incompetence on their part. Fortunately this was only a risk for small purchases with no online query (restaurant meals, buying tickets in the metro...)