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To: nihil who wrote (75831)	3/19/2000 3:34:00 PM
From: Edwarda	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

As usual, nihil, you resort to casual rudeness and feeble insult when someone points out an error. Moreover, your scholarship in the medieval and Tudor periods has been shown to be sloppy often enough to make cracks about mine utterly silly and pointless. I did not seek to embark upon a disquisition on the origin of the term. I merely pointed out a small error. However.... From the Nazareth Resource Library: Q: When did the term "Roman Catholic Church" come into being? A: It is not possible to give an exact year when the Catholic Church began to be called the "Roman Catholic Church," it is possible to approximate it. The term originates as an insult created by Anglicans who wished to refer to themselves as Catholic. They thus coined the term "Roman Catholic" to distinguish those "other" Catholics and create a sense in which they could refer to themselves as Catholics (by attempting to deprive actual Catholics to the right to the term). Different variants of the "Roman" insult appeared at different times. The earliest form of the insult was the noun "Romanist" (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which appeared in England about 1515-1525. The next to develop was the adjective "Romish" (similar to something done or believed in the Catholic Church), which appeared around 1525-1535. Next came the noun "Roman Catholic" (one belonging to the Catholic Church), which was coined approximately 1595-1605. Shortly thereafter came the verb "to Romanize" (to make someone a Catholic or to become a Catholic), which appeared around 1600-10. Then between 1665 and 1675 we got the noun "Romanism" (the system of Catholic beliefs and practices), and finally we got a late-comer term about 1815-1825-the noun "Roman Catholicism," which is a synonym for the earlier "Romanism." A similar complex of insults arose around the term "pope." About 1515-25 the Anglicans coined the term "papist" and later its derivative "papism." A quick follow-up, in 1520-1530, was the adjective "popish." Next came "popery" (1525-1535), and then "papistry" (1540-1550), with its later derivatives, "papistical" and "papistic." (Source: Random House Webster's College Dictionary, 1995 ed.) This complex of insults is revealing as it shows the depths of animosity English Protestants had toward the Church. No other religious body (perhaps no other group at all-even national or racial ones) has such a complex of insults woven into the English language as does the Catholic Church. Even today many Protestants who have no idea what the origin of the term is cannot bring themselves to say "Catholic" without qualifying it or replacing it with a Roman insult.

To: nihil who wrote (75831)	3/19/2000 3:37:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 108807

ENCYCLOP’DIA BRITANNICA Whitby, Synod of a meeting held by the Christian Church of the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Northumbria in 663/664 to decide whether to follow Celtic or Roman usages. It marked a vital turning point in the development of the church in England. Though Northumbria had been mainly converted by Celtic missionaries, there was by 662 a Roman party, which included Queen Eanfled, Bishop Wilfrid, and other influential people. The Celtic party was led by the bishops Colman and Cedd and Abbess Hilda. Two accounts of the synod survive, in Bede's Ecclesiastical History of the English People and in the life of Wilfrid by the monk Eddi. King Oswiu decided in favour of Rome because he believed that Rome followed the teaching of St. Peter, the holder of the keys of heaven. The decision led to the acceptance of Roman usage elsewhere in England and brought the English Church into close contact with the Continent.