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To: Elmer who wrote (99207)	3/21/2000 12:14:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1578094

RE:"but you will be seeing larger L2s on CuMines very soon too but you didn't hear that from me."... For retail consumption or servers? Jim

To: Elmer who wrote (99207)	3/21/2000 1:18:00 AM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 1578094

Elmer, you will be seeing larger L2s on CuMines very soon The performance improvement in a single processor system will be minimal. Scumbria

To: Elmer who wrote (99207)	3/21/2000 1:20:00 AM
From: Scumbria	Respond to of 1578094

Elmer, An objective view would always place Athlon as a very close second to CuMine in performance. You are doing it again. I thought that I scolded you about this last week. Scumbria

To: Elmer who wrote (99207)	3/21/2000 8:48:00 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 1578094

Re: An objective view would always place Athlon as a very close second to CuMine in performance.... In applications that execute integer operations to page up and down in a Word document 100 times in a row, Coppermine is often slightly ahead. But in applications that actually require more than a fraction of a second to complete, such as mathematical models and image rendering, Athlon is generally faster clock for clock. On problem solving applications that have objective functions which minimize or maximize some goal, Athlon is considerably faster. Overall, the two processors are roughly equivalent clock for clock on real software. Dan

To: Elmer who wrote (99207)	3/21/2000 10:18:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578094

Elmer - RE: "AMDites expect the on-die versions of Athlon to change things but you will be seeing larger L2s on CuMines very soon too but you didn't hear that from me." Which do you expect to help more * full speed, on die 256KB L2 cache that replaces 1/3 speed, off chip 512KB L2 cache or * an extra on die 256KB L2 cache that is in addition to an already full speed, high-bandwidth 256KB L2 cache (for a total of 512K) ??? I think the former will increase performance more which means I think Thunderbird will outperform Cumine-512KB. If you are talking 1 and 2MB Cascades, which SITLL haven't come out yet, they don't even compete with the Athlon in the first place because of price.