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To: Bill who wrote (15928)	3/21/2000 9:56:00 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Weep for our late lamented Democracy: From a WSJ editorial on the recent gun "settlement". . . . Supporters of the new settlement seemed to treat as a virtue that it doesn't have to be run by Congress for approval. White House domestic policy adviser Bruce Reed said the agreement showed that "the public good doesn't have to be held hostage to legislative stalemate," while the New York Times reported that the deal has "opened a new avenue for regulating the firearms industry without action from Congress," where gun-control legislation has fallen victim to "partisan gridlock." "Legislative stalemate" and "partisan gridlock" are merely pejorative terms for the normal workings of democracy. When the legislative process is working, measures that are passionately opposed by an important constituency within the majority legislative party do not tend to hurtle to a speedy enactment. . . . interactive.wsj.com

To: Bill who wrote (15928)	3/21/2000 10:07:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Yes, Challenging your lifelong assumptions and "unlearning what you have learned" is something Democrats like Brian find extremely difficult to do. To them, we are all part of some evil monolithic crowd. It's the "right wing conspiracy" thing we must be protected from. Most of the fools in the media can't accept the fact that after years of propaganda every day average Americans (like us) won't accept the BS coming out of the left wing Democratic machine and the Oval Office. Freedom and liberty are too important a price to pay. There is literally nothing a person like Al Gore can do which would cause the deep seated Democrats from supporting him. They will accept any behavior, believe any word spoken, or allow any law to be broken. Because the only thing worse than a criminal is a Republican. Remember, we want to "starve children" and "pollute the world". Funny, I didn't see the mainstream media getting all up in arms about the use of those words from this administration a few years ago. And they never bat an eye when every gun death is blamed on the NRA. But oh, how they cry when poor Bill is put on the spot to defend his record of ignoring enforcement of current laws and the causal effect that has! Why pass a damn gun law if we aren't willing to enforce it? With Al Gore and Janet Reno's way of thinking, we should just post speeding signs and never hand out a ticket! After all, it's the passing of the law which is the deterrent to them, and not the enforcement of the law. If it wasn't so important, it would be laughable. Michael

To: Bill who wrote (15928)	3/21/2000 12:17:00 PM
From: Brian P.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Oh, please. You are such a mutual admiration society it was entirely reasonable to refer to you as "you guys" but if you prefer I'll call you "you individuals". I do answer your points, e-bill, and I rather think I am not losing these arguments. You're the one resorting to the "people like Brian" tactic. I'm sorry that it upsets you that I've invaded your little club with my independent mind and that I can think for myself.