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To: Jerry Olson who wrote (89906)3/23/2000 1:37:00 PM
From: nokomis  Respond to of 120523
 
NOIZ news re updated website..sounds very positive: biz.yahoo.com



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (89906)3/23/2000 2:46:00 PM
From: Lane Hall-Witt  Respond to of 120523
 
OJ -- AMGN (and TKTX, CEGE):

I generally agree, but short-term I'm pretty nervous about the lawsuit. I'm neither a scientist nor a lawyer, but I "intuitively" like TKTX's position better than AMGN's. It seems that TKTX really has developed a unique methodology for producing erythropoietin (gene-activation; AMGN uses a closing technique). I'm not keen on the strategy TKTX's lawyers have employed, claiming that gene-activation is structurally equivalent to the urinary procedures for manufacturing erythropoietin that are not covered by the AMGN patent. That seems to muddy the waters, since TKTX's technique isn't literally a urinary method. Nevertheless, it seems to me (intuitively!) that TKTX's claim rests upon the more compelling principle: the non-urinary restriction is meant to illustrate a general principle that says AMGN can patent its prorietary cloning methodology, but not the substance erythropoietin itself. I think this is where the TKTX lawyers should make their stand.

For what it's worth, the market seems to be liking TKTX a lot these past few days, while AMGN has been hamstrung.

By the way, CEGE is a good "back-door" play on the TKTX side of this case. It has licensed gene-activation technology to Aventis (TKTX's corporate partner) for GA-Epogen and stands to garner royalties if GA-Epicor comes to market. On top of that, there is speculation that the second gene-activation technology CEGE licensed to Aventis is a building block for GA-Neupogen, which is rumored to be under development by TKTX and Aventis to compete with Neupogen. A win for TKTX could be a very big win for CEGE indeed.



To: Jerry Olson who wrote (89906)3/24/2000 1:15:00 AM
From: sherlockgerlach  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 120523
 
What is your latest wisdom on CMGI? It broke DT at 126 went to 128 1/2 and then down today to 122. Is this a hold for two weeks or so to wait for AV IPO? Or do you set a stop in the 110 range?