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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: hmaly who wrote (100276)	3/27/2000 4:28:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1576180

Hmaly and Milo, <If the Rambus chipsets are an example of Intels finest hour, what would you call a flop.> Rambus is helping push the Pentium III performance past that of Athlon. And you can buy Rambus-based PCs now, while DDR-based PCs are still months away. <The 810 as far as I know has been a flop since day 1.> You couldn't be more wrong about that. 810 is currently the most popular low-end chipset out there, period. I personally built two computers using the 810 chipset for real cheap, and the performance of these systems are much better than what the press is making people believe. For example, Unreal Tournament, one of the hottest 3D games out there right now, runs very well on a Celeron/810 combo. This certainly surprised me, considering that I too once had a negative image of 810's 3D performance. <The mendocino celeron was an answer to AMD'S and cyrix's low end chip> Yes it was, but it was also the first PC processor to feature an on-die L2 cache. (By the way, Milo, what you were talking about was Covington Celeron, which I admit was weak.) <streaming simd enhancements grew out of 3dnow> Wrong. SSE was in development long before AMD introduced 3DNow. AMD went the quick-n-dirty route with 3DNow, trying to keep it simple in order to gain a nine month time-to-market advantage over Intel. However, AMD failed to capitalize on that TTM advantage, which is why the robustness of SSE is winning out over 3DNow. <The advanced hub architecture is both more expensive and slower than BX.> Wrong. HubLink-based chipsets are cheaper to make and faster than BX. You really ought to stop basing your judgements on Tom's Hardware Guide, a site that thinks an overclocked 440BX chipset is a legitimate system. <the jury is probably still out on the benefits of the notched gates as there still appear to be yield problems with coppermine and I haven't heard anything about Willy having notched gates.> Wrong again. Intel is yielding Coppermines very well, despite the low-volume launches. Volumes are more important to Intel than speed. If notched gates create significant yield problems, Intel would drop them in a heartbeat. In conclusion, I'd like to thank you guys for responding to my list of Intel innovations. It shows me just how distorted your views on Intel really are. No wonder 50% of the posts on this thread are more anti-Intel than pro-AMD. It's like watching negative campaign ads from politicians. Tenchusatsu