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To: steve harris who wrote (100318)	3/27/2000 8:03:00 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576167

steve, re:<128K Spitfire vs. 512K Athlon> All other things being equal, making the cache 1/4 the size while doubling its bandwidth (and probably halving its latency) is a wash. If anything the Spitfire may be a little faster, because the comparison I'm using for reference (Celeron 128K vs. original PIII) used a faster bus for PIII, but Spitfire and Athlon both have 200 MHz bus. Spitfire should benefit more from PC133 memory than Athlon does. Petz

To: steve harris who wrote (100318)	3/27/2000 9:06:00 PM
From: JohnD	Respond to of 1576167

I'm not the one who can answer your question re. comparison. I can comment concerning the current Athlon 700 chip, though. I'm using one right now, had it since Dec., and I love it. :) FWIW, I ordered this system in late Nov. from Compaq, had it "built for me", and it was delivered in a little over 2 weeks as promised. HTH, JohnD

To: steve harris who wrote (100318)	3/27/2000 9:15:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576167

Steve, Spitfire will be an awesome chip. I am sure it will be overclockable to close to 1Ghz. And it will likely beat current AThlons on most benchmarks clock to clock. It should be cheap to make. The big questions are: When??? for high volumes ..... mid year seems way too late for me - it gives Intel 3 month lead at low end. Yields??? AMD has had problems yielding full on speed cache. In fact this may expalain the 64K/128K l2 cache rumors. They may have put 128K in but may disable half unless yields are excellent. They will likely play this close to their vest until they have significant yield data. I have noticed a huge fall off in k6-2 systems when one walks around. Hopefully this means that huge volumes of spitfires are in process. Spitfire is definately worth waiting for. regards Kash