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To: deibutfeif who wrote (100361)3/28/2000 12:10:00 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1576827
 
~dbf,

Ted, re:<Now why do you think Intel has such a bad rep?>

I have little doubt that Intel has used its IP to make life more difficult for AMD. If the roles were reversed, I have even less doubt that Jerry would quite cheerfully reciprocate.


Its not only AMD for whom Intel makes life more difficult.

Nevertheless, as an Intel investor, I expect Intel to do everything within its power (legally) to gain a competitive advantage, including using those legal tools at its disposal.

Its hard to determine if Intel has done anything illegal; however I would not be surprised if it has. Intel is a model for the corporation that behaves like they are on a football field or better yet, a battlefield. There are other corporations that believe you must compete but also believe there is enough spoils for everyone. There are a growing number of corporations like that....and that is the model to which I am attracted.

This is not to say I agree that all such tools are "fair", but if you're in the game, you play by the rules - all the rules.

It depends what the rules are....for LA gangs, the rule is to kill or be killed. That rule is unacceptable to me and I would try to find a way not to participate.

BTW I realize that killing is illegal, but in my experience the rules do not always obey the law.

I presume you expect the same of AMD (assuming you are long AMD).

I want AMD to compete fairly but not to kill the opposition or whatever the corporate equivalent to that is.

It just doesn't seem fitting to whine (my perception) about what the competition is doing, unless it is demonstrably illegal.

I agree but at times we have all felt the pressure of the bully and to complain about that pressure is human.

ted



To: deibutfeif who wrote (100361)3/28/2000 6:29:00 AM
From: hmaly  Respond to of 1576827
 
Deibutfeif Re...<<< It just doesn't seem fitting to whine (my perception) about what the competition is doing, unless it is demonstrably illegal. ..>>>>>>

Deibutfeif, the trouble with that statement is that the legal system nowadays is such a piece of shit, with good lawyers one can basically do anything and get away with it. How did O J and the Mendez brothers get away with murder? The simple fact is the legal system is so expensive; and punitive damages for bringing worthless lawsuits rare; that the legal system has become a tool to keep the status quo, rather than a system of justice. And its this piece of crap, that you use to justify whatever Intel does. Think about it. Intel used to be a world class company; and now its reduced to using lawyers instead of engineers to stop competition.

To understand what I am talking about, look at Dow chemical and the tobacco companies. What did Dow do wrong except to make life more pleasant for us dirty old men with their breast implants. Not one medical study,out of over 2 dozen has ever suggested a connection between autoimmune diseases and silicone implants and yet Dow is effectively broke trying to defend itself aginst the thousands of plaintiffs. On the other hand look at big tobacco which kills hundreds of thousands annually, but gets away with it by bribing congress; which in turn passes laws which make it difficult to sue big tobacco.