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To: Burt Masnick who wrote (101675)	3/28/2000 10:34:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<..but I don't think the ads that are in the paper are there. > Burt, are you handicapped or what? Wheelchair? Your paper advertising arguments become boring. Why don't you go outside, into real, retail life? Visit Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, Fry's, SAMs... Don't you think that your paper ads provide you with somewhat handicapped information? For example, Computer Shopper used to publish ads at least 3 month in advance, based on promises from suppliers. So what? Their papers remained just a paper in many cases. <I know this isn't what you want to hear.> Please do not measure others with your personal dipstick. What I do hear is that there is no retail systems with 800MHz P-iii, not speaking about 1GHz; I do hear that Intel has to keep Coppermines below 60degC with that huge heat sink, in huge contrast with the past when 85-90 degC was perfectly ok and safe for boxmakers... I do hear that Dell cannot configure half of it's production models with 800MHz RIMMs suggesting to use 700- and 600 MHz RDRAM, while other Dell models are apparently ok with 800MHz. I do hear that you cannot find any second-third-tier supplier who will be willing to assemble a working RAMBUS system for you. I also do hear that i810 boards have repelling video quality. Do you want to hear more of what I hear?

To: Burt Masnick who wrote (101675)	3/28/2000 12:34:00 PM
From: Mani1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Burt, you missed my point! Bestbuy which is the largest electronic retail chain in the US, is a much better indicator than a local paper. THAT was the point. The lack of availability of high end Coppermines are not fiction based on selective reporting of retail shops by AMD fans, it is obvious fact that is simply observable by going to a local retail store. Bestbuy, Costco and Gateway Country stores are selling the 1 GHz Athlon today! Anyone one, anywhere, selling anything above 800 Coppermine? It is funny how people forget the old days when Intel filled up the OEM and distribution channels before they launched a product. It used to be that once Intel raised the curtain on a product, you could get on that day from all channels. Now, you place an order for it through a tier one OEM like Dell and if you are lucky you get it in 6 weeks. What a joke Intel has become. If you want to think that lack of high end CPU's from Intel is a product of my imagination, be my guest. Mani