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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (76651)	4/2/2000 4:14:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

We do not learn from the past. Humans like to kill other humans over (what seem to me) very silly differences. I am different from everyone, but manage to stifle my murderous instincts. I think the rest of humanity ought to do the same, but of course I have no illusions that they will. We are red in tooth and claw. We don't seem to be changing.

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (76651)	4/2/2000 11:53:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

Dear Nancy, You seem to attribute common beliefs to all Arabs. I think you underestimate the courage of people who have negotiated with Israel despite threats of death from the hard line anti-Israel crowd. They are at least as brave as the Israeli peacemakers who are willing to try to negotiate. It is certainly not easy for the moderates on either side to abandon the fanatics in order to work out some kind of peace. But the willingness of people who have been hurt by history to bind up their wounds and try to live in peace with their enemies -- even those they have injured deeply -- is the only hope of any future for us all. Some of my ancestors slaughtered, raped, kidnapped others of my ancestors. I know few of the details. There is nothing I could do to compensate the losers. The winners left me nothing but forgetfulness from which to lay the losers. With the conflict in my family, how can I punish or compensate my neighbors? All of us have done such things that there is no good in us. All we can do is to remember to forget the wrongs done against us and done by us, shake hands, and vow to live in peace. Shall I read you a piece of history? "...The flight became a mass exodus [sic!] after the Irgun attacked the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem where many women and children were killed. The Arab leaders wished to exploit the incident for propaganda purposes in order to incite the Arab states against the Jews; but the result was a mass flight of Palestinian Jews." (H.H. Ben-Sasson, A History of the Jewish People, Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1976, p. 1056) Both sides have much to be ashamed of and to forget. Blood debts cannot be paid with blood.