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To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (98385)	4/2/2000 10:03:00 PM
From: KeepItSimple	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

>too numerous to list. Just list one. Just one. And remember, third party. It can't be from Rambus, and it can't be from Intel. And it can't be from Rambus's investment bankers, and it can't be from their underwriters. Just one. Comon. One tiny little link. I know you can do it, victor! You couldn't possibly have based your entire opinion of RDRAMs engineering prowess based on Rambus press releases, could you? edit: oh, I see that you have changed your position. Now Rambus will succeed because of superior marketing, not because of performance! Because marketing has won for the last 50 years! Which is it, Victor? Is rambus technologically superior, or do they have better marketing? (here's a hint- ever see a Samsung SDRAM advertisement? surprised that they control over 90% of the memory manufacturing market? with no advertising? but i thought you just said that advertising always wins! so shouldn't Rambus have the lions share of the ram market?)

To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (98385)	4/2/2000 10:27:00 PM
From: Don Green	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

Victor > Did you know that the Sony Walkman was launched with no advertising? Where did you get that info????? Don

To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (98385)	4/2/2000 11:26:00 PM
From: Bill Harmond	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

>>too numerous to list. Victor, you can do better than that. Show us something. I can speak with some RDRAM end-user impressions now. I have PC 800 RDRAM in a computer I put together with hand-picked components. It has an Intel VC820 motherboard (which should qualify as a reference platform). I have a DPT Decade RAID card and a couple new Ultra 160 drives all of which which are not yet installed, so until I install that storage system I'm using my old Seagate Cheetah 10,000 RPM U2W SCSI drive since it carries my OS (Win 2000) and apps from my old computer. My video card is a new 32 Meg Guillemot Prophet DDR AGP card. The processors from my old and new systems are P-III 600's though the new system has a 600B, which supports a 133 Mhz FSB. I can report that disk I/O seems exactly comparable to the old system. There is no appreciable difference in disk I/O speed. What really shines is video bandwidth, but that could be the Guillemot NVidia/DDR combination, too. However, since it is an AGP 4x system that uses the RDRAM directly, I think the RDRAM is responsible for some of the truly awesome video. So far I've used only 2D business apps, but I expect it will rock for gaming. So, bottom line, if I were a corporate purchaser, I'd pass on RDRAM systems. As a footnote, I have to tell you that Windows 2000 is awesome. So stable. And get this: When I put my old drive and SCSI card in the new computer from the old one, Windows 2000 completely reconfigured itself for all the new components without asking me once to insert the Windows disk. The only driver it requested was for the video card.