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Strategies & Market Trends : Gorilla and King Portfolio Candidates -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: BDR who wrote (22136)	4/3/2000 12:36:00 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 54805

dale, I guess you want to buy insurance against a long term bear market. My solution is cash on hand. If you have enough non-equity to carry you though 3 years, that should handle about anything we will run into. If it lasts longer than that, you can join me behind the counter down at the 7-11. This whole subject is so subjective that no one else has the right answer for you. I go on the "sleep well at night" theory. This has given me a lot of trouble this year. I cannot make my mind up on the correct ratio's for me, and I keep going back and forth.

To: BDR who wrote (22136)	4/3/2000 2:42:00 PM
From: StockHawk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 54805

Re: Subject: Hedging Dale, I have been toying with this subject for quite some time and have not found any fool-proof answers. It seems most hedging strategies fail on one measure or another either because they are too expensive, too short term or cap future profits. Some have you betting against yourself, such as when you buy a put on a stock you hold. Since part of the motivation to hedge likely derives from apprehension concerning the high valuations in the tech market, One strategy that intrigues me is an attempt to stratify the tech market into two groups. One group (our long term stocks) will be gorillas and kings - companies we expect to outperform the market, both by rising strongly in good markets and falling less severely in down markets. The second group (put candidates) would be comprised of companies whose overvalued shares or risky business models may tend to put them at peril. As Mobius said the other day (and as many others have said) C to C Internets would seem to qualify. If anyone finds the kernel of wisdom here we can perhaps discuss this further, otherwise, that's the end of this thread bloat. StockHawk

To: BDR who wrote (22136)	4/3/2000 5:27:00 PM
From: Jyoti sharma	Respond to of 54805

Thank you for sharing your portfolio. Here is a link for the NASDAQ 100. You can get all kinds of information by switching to fundamental and technical views. investertech.com\nds100.grp Good investing, Jyoti

To: BDR who wrote (22136)	4/3/2000 7:00:00 PM
From: BDR	Respond to of 54805

Thanks to all those who replied either publicly or privately. I would like to make one correction to my post that I didn't catch until too late: "3)Buying a gorilla and shorting a prince is an interesting concept that I haven't seen explored much." should read: "3)Buying a gorilla and shorting a chimp or monkey is an interesting concept that I haven't seen explored much."

To: BDR who wrote (22136)	4/4/2000 5:06:00 PM
From: Tom Trader	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 54805

Dale, re the hedging of portfolios Several weeks ago when our portfolios were looking a lot more healthy than they are today, I sought to get a discussion going on this thread regarding portfolio protection. I did not find much interest among the participants. I will state that I did receive several private messages expressing some interest in the subject. The last thing that I want to do is contribute to thread bloat or for that matter discuss a subject that is not of interest to other participants. However, I know based on private messages from you (and one other person on this thread) have, in the past day or two, indicated an interest in exploring strategies for dealing with portfolio protection and hedging techniques. For my part, I do not view the employment of these strategies as being inherently contradictory to the gorilla gaming concept or for that matter any ltb&h approach. I wish I had been adequately hedged through this decline -- it would have given me the courage to add to my holdings on a day like this when some stocks were being sold at fire-sale prices. If there is sufficient interest on the thread I would like to discuss it here -- especially since we have some fairly astute individuals who participate on this thread. Alternatively, if the consensus is that this is not a subject appropriate for this thread, I would be pleased to participate with you and any one else who may be interested, in some other forum. I hasten to add that I do not have a ready solution to this issue.