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To: freelyhovering who wrote (9108)	4/8/2000 8:34:00 PM
From: mr.mark	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110652

hi myron, re "Comments?" ... well keep in mind that i have no personal knowledge or experience with 'go back'... just what i've read here. that said, if you go back (pun intended) and read jw's post #reply-13370961 i think it shows that you are asking too much of the program. it sounds like you were trying to recover from a browser crash? is that a valid function of 'go back'? i don't know. again, in reading jw's post, it looks as though that's not the application. here's an example of what i mean. take failed software installs. if your system is fine, then you try installing something that screws things all up, 'go back' will come to the rescue and take you back to where you used to be. but whatever caused your invalid page fault or general protection fault was probably present a few hours earlier. so 'go back' offers no remedy. long story endless, i don't see that 'go back' offers antifreeze protection, such as norton's does. and for that matter, i've never had any great success getting antifreeze (a component of crashguard) to work consistently. just kicking in my two cents, as you requested <g3> it's a good subject, myron :) mark

To: freelyhovering who wrote (9108)	4/8/2000 10:42:00 PM
From: jw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110652

Hi Myron, sorry you are, pretty fed up with GoBack right now and am thinking of SendBack<g>. I haven't had a crash to test system. Noticed tho it's crippled in that it only keeps 24 hrs. in memory. Guess when you BUY they send a Unlock key. Did you scroll back to the last Safety Safe Point, or go farther back in time? Just wondering. They claim it's not a cure all and will never take the place of a good Back Up. Regards and have a Nice Week End, /jw ps; Do you think an e-mail to support is in order before one buys? How GoBack works and the theory behind it GoBack works by adding a protective level between the operating system and your hard disk. GoBack tracks all the changes that are made to the disk. It contains special logic to avoid data loss in the event of a sudden crash or power loss. Because it is keeping track of all your changes made in the recent past, it can reconstruct your disk at virtually any point - a "safe point" - in the recent past. Safe points are moments in time where your disk is idle for about ten seconds. GoBack allows you to return your disk to an earlier state (reverting) or view and/or recover specific files from the past (by referencing back to moments where your disk was idle). Using a portion of the disk to track recent changes, it is very likely that GoBack can restore your computer to working order or retrieve an otherwise lost file. This ability is provided without generally impacting your computer's performance.

To: freelyhovering who wrote (9108)	4/9/2000 4:59:00 AM
From: Paul Senior	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110652

GoBack came with my new Gateway computer. I don't like either. My comments should be discounted because I am not knowledgeable or savvy regarding computers. I spent several weeks trying to install a NIC card and getting it and the computer to work with a DSL line that I had the phone company put into my home. My basic complaint is that boot up is slow and erratic - I can't be confident I can boot up to the point where my desktop appears. Sometimes the unit just stops - with the Windows '98 screen or a black screen with a flashing dash. Control-alt-delete is ineffective. So I have to power down. Occasionally, after a day on the computer, when I try to shut down, again the unit freezes and I have to power down. So of course, what happens when I next power up, I get a msg from GoBack (sometimes from Windows) saying I didn't shut down properly and that GoBack will recheck my drives (not sure if this is the right terminology). And sometimes there's a GoBack bar on the screen (sometimes not) where I can see % progress; but sometimes there's no progress on the bar and the computer just sits and sits. So again I power down the computer (I've even left the computer on overnight to see if it will get past this stuck point, but no.) And when I power up- it's back I can go into that loop of being warned by GoBack/Windows. But sometimes it just goes ahead and boots up okay, sometimes in safe mode, mostly not So here's my opinion about my Gateway system and GoBack: Compared to my P133(?) equivalent and 64K ram windows '95 machine a coworker built for me, my 650mhz Gateway 128 ram'98SE loads (gets me to my desktop) much more slowly, and unlike my older unit - I'm not even sure that the Gateway unit will get me there when I do power up. And unlike my older unit I can't just be sure I'm done when I hit the shutdown button. I've tried to disable GoBack, but that just seems to make the boot up problem worse the next time - GoBack recognizes it's disabled and wants to be reenabled (and the computer freezes during the reenable). I will eventually have to build up my confidence to uninstall the thing. Possibly I own this problem and am unwilling to confront my own inadequacies. Just seems easier to scapegoat Gateway and GoBack. (Not too thrilled with Lynksys - either their customer service or their NIC card which I eventually returned at Frys for a 3Com.) I am VERY happy with Earthlink DSL installation support people who worked with me several times (the last call taking 2 hours)to get me up and running. (Frustrating there for a while to be on the phone with them & have to shutdown the computer after making changes to network settings and then finding that I can't restart (boot up) to continue the process.)-- But I eventually worked through it all. - got sympathy and tranquilizers from the wife -g-. And learned a lot about my tolerance - lack of it- for this stuff. Trying to stay sane and see where I can at least feel somewhat good about what I've got-- one of the reasons I started to read this thread. Now that I've got two computers (the older one still is hooked up to the internet with a modem and separate phone line), I'm hoping I'll be somewhat more willing to experiment and learn. Paul Senior