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To: Bargain Hunter who wrote (10240)4/9/2000 2:21:00 PM
From: Rocky Reid  Respond to of 60323
 
Your arguments concerning CF slots and the like are spot-on. One only has to look at all of the announced Bluetooth, Modems, GPS recievers, et al. in the pipeline in a CF format to realize that the CompactFlash Standard is MUCH more than a simple storage enabler. It is a means of adding functionality and expansion to a device that helps keep it from being obsolete 6 months after purchase.

There are simply no compelling reasons for OEM's to include mechanical storage in their Palm Pilots, MP3 players, cell phones, etc. The only advtantage of media price as voiced by Iomega Investors is of no concern to OEM's as the OEM Manufacturers are the ones who have to absorb the High $$$ $200 Cost of the Clik Drive -and then pass it on to the consumer. This pushes the retail price completely out of the required price point for the device's feature set. This unavoidable pitfall for mehcanical devices like Iomega's woeful Clik Drive are a serious achilles heel.

I would love to see what a cell phone or MP3 player looks like with a PCMCIA type III slot and the extra batteries required to run a Dataplay Drive. The montrosity produced would be a barrelful of laughs and a short-lived monument to Bad Industrial Design (See the Varo Vision Plus w/Iomega Clik for reference or the Agfa CL30 Clik camera--BIG and UUUGGGlY!).



To: Bargain Hunter who wrote (10240)4/9/2000 3:42:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
I guess if we, perhaps the hardest core SanDisk devotes, are still arguing the value of rotating disks here on this thread...

...that it must mean the message is still not clear enough.


I think we have listed every possible reason why rotating disks will falter in the long run and have provided ample evidence to support our findings. CASE CLOSED!

I just wanted to throw two more compelling reasons on the heap of incriminating evidence against our competitors in the rotating disk business...

"cross-platform compatibility"
and
"multifunctionality"

...as they pertain to CF.
Only one rule needs to be observed and that rule is that...CARDS FOLLOW SLOTS!!!

Cross-Platform Compatibility

First, a CompactFlash card represents the last roll of film you may ever need to buy. It is the equivalent of the Everlasting Gobstopper that Willie Wonka discovered in his chocolate factory. That is a value-added feature that many of us fail to recognize and a point which the detractors of flash memory frequently fail to mention. Second, if you decided that you would rather listen to some music you could easily download any remaining photos to your PC, reformat the card, and load up your favorite MP3's all in one fell swoop. Later, you could reformat and copy business files from your PC onto a card and plug it into a PCMCIA adapter to use on a business trip. This completely eliminates the need for a floppy drive in the laptop. And pretty soon you will probably be interested in an e-Book or a digital picture frame or a Pocket PC-based multimedia device or some other (as of yet undiscovered) stand-alone device that uses the industry standard CF card. Why would you buy anything but a device that uses CF?

Multifunctionality

The CF slot will also house a multitude of so-called "CF+" functionality including flash memory cards, digital camera inserts, phone modems, pager modules, LAN cards, wireless LAN cards (Bluetooth), GPS receivers,... The CF standard, in true Gorilla Game fashion, has allowed several diverse industries to instantaneously agree on a single defacto standard. It is typical for enabling technologies such as CF and its corresponding CF slot to suddenly appear in a wide range of diverse applications almost simultaneously.
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By the way, for those of you with short memories, SanDisk owns the CF trademark and licenses it free of charge.
I think this speaks to the far-sightedness of the PCMCIA card pioneers and, in particular, the outstanding foundation that Dr. Harari and his co-workers at SanDisk have poured. It appears to be a rock-solid basis on which to build a wealth of interoperable/interactive/interconnected/intergalactic IA's ("Internet Appliances"). I don't expect it will be going away any time soon.

All IMHO,

Ausdauer
"SanDisk...See the BIG picture!"



To: Bargain Hunter who wrote (10240)4/9/2000 4:24:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
This is the proof.

from: pc-card.com

SanDisk Corporation

"SanDisk Corporation is the world's largest supplier of flash data storage products. SanDisk (formerly SunDisk) was founded in 1988 by Eli Harari, an international authority on non-volatile memory technology. In November, 1995, SanDisk became a publicly traded company (NASDAQ:SNDK). The company has been a flash technology pioneer and industry leader since its inception. SanDisk was one of the first members of the Personal Computer Memory Card International Association (PCMCIA) and played a major role in setting the PCMCIA standards that today govern specifications of PC Cards. SanDisk industry-standard ATA (AT Attachment) PC Cards are "plug and play" in virtually all mobile computing and communications products including notebooks and subnotebooks, handheld data collection computers, HPCs, PDAs and cellular phones. SanDisk embedded flash data storage devices also are widely used for numerous industrial applications in various markets including telecommunications, transportation, aerospace, health care and government."

Aus