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To: Neocon who wrote (77295)4/10/2000 9:56:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
hostile? Oh dear me. I don't think there was an oath in my post from beginning to end. Unless you mean hostile as in having a diametrically opposed view- but it didn't really SOUND like you meant that. I am intellectually rigorous- as opposed to some here, who appear to be mental couch potatoes, but I am very rarely hostile. For example I don't attack in groups. And normally I attack ideas, silly, unsupported ideas. But I can understand why you wouldn't want to go there.



To: Neocon who wrote (77295)4/10/2000 1:11:00 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Well, if Neocon will pass (which is doubtless better than he did in his biology classes which may account for his bitterness about his teachers) I'll have to take up the argument.
We have discovered many, many gods carved from sticks or stones or lumps of clay. We have a law that requires holders of these gods (and other funerary goods) to turn them over to their associated people. The difficulty is proving the actual connection between the gods and the people. There aree many other interesting scientific problems arising in these funerary goods (or gods). The shroud of Turin, of course, has generated an anormous amount of controversy, although the research indicates that if one believes in science, it is a hoax, but if one believes in superstition its something else. My own belief is that it should be possible to clone a human being (or a god) off of the fragments of tissue on the shroud. If not, there are many other holy relics that could be checked. I'm not the right person to know, but there must be lots of relics that we could use to reconstruct clones of various holy people. Like Buddha's tooth in Ceylon and many other places. I am afraid, however, that all of the experiments would not be very useful to the propagation of the faith.
I probably agree with you, however, that it is not this fictional evidence that interests me. I would need a working model to believe in a god --- something that could draw lightning from the clouds and burn up priests of Baal, make tiny little angels (or even fruit flies) dance upon a pin, divide oceans on command, or something like that. I am afraid we will be disappointed. Few people who admit to belief in god are willing to submit their superstitions to a test (thou shall not tempt the lord thy god!) based on results of an experiment. People who believe claim to believe because it is true.