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To: epicure who wrote (77481)4/10/2000 3:35:00 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
<<You have to go behavior by behavior and decide 1. if the behavior exists and 2.does it represent what you want to call caring- and even if you've done that, what does it matter?>> This is exactly right. 3. The same behavior or series of behaviors observed by two different people can be labeled two different ways. One person can accurately label the behaviors as being caused by "caring" while the other person could mislabel them manipulation, fraud, etc. The person who can accurately label them caring or not is the person who performed the behaviors and who has a "self evident" knowledge of the motive.

<<What self-evident awareness? How do you KNOW we each have it? I've certainly seen no evidence that everyone is aware, or "self evidently aware">> Surely you jest? Well, you have to take into account the context the term implies. You can have knowledge that there are things that are evident you you because you are self aware. Other people can give evidence that it is a common trait in human beings by their acknowledgement and testimony. When no one can prove it doesn't exist and an occasional skeptic such as yourself questions the existance of the universal existance of a phenomenon such as self evident awareness, it falls back on you to prove your position, not me.

<<What does it matter?>> It is the basis for debating on the logic of believing things that are not observable in the scientific context.



To: epicure who wrote (77481)4/10/2000 3:43:00 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
<<. What proof? And FOR what?>> I have offered a logical premise for gathering evidence for things that are not observable through traditional scientific inquiry. The proof is in the pudding.

<<This post is a mish mash.>> That seems kind of pointed and personal. This gives evidence to the post that accused you of harboring some animosity.