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To: f.simons who wrote (103903)	4/11/2000 5:27:00 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1571724

fs, US ... has a monopoly on rotten people. I did not say that US has a monopoly, but the violence is so disproportionate, that you can't overlook it. To prove my point, look at this crime statistics (I just randomly selected countries whose population I know), in particular, rape, where you don't need a gun: The number indicates number of rapes per million people: Austria 347 Czechoslovakia 182 Germany 677 France 163 Italy 223 United States 1,458 I think the pattern is obvious. ifs.univie.ac.at Joe

To: f.simons who wrote (103903)	4/11/2000 6:03:00 PM
From: Y. Samuel Arai	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1571724

Good people can't shoot each other if they don't have guns. Country is irrelevant. Good point. Having no guns available make it less likely that good individuals in their rare moment of insanity (e.g. fit of depression and/or rage caused by AMD stock taking a huge dump), would go out and cause morbid and/or mortal harm to many others. If the Stockton McDonald's shooter only had kitchen knives to work with, how many could he have killed and/or injured? Maybe he wouldn't have even attempted anything like that, if all he had to work with were kitchen knives.

To: f.simons who wrote (103903)	4/11/2000 6:09:00 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571724

Pretty strange coincidence that the US, being the only "civilized" country where you can fill up your garage legally with guns, has a monopoly on rotten people. Good people can't shoot each other if they don't have guns. Country is irrelevant. frank, Is it that the people are more civilized and that's why there are strong gun laws, or is that the country has strong gun laws and so the people act more civilized? I tend to think its the former. ted

To: f.simons who wrote (103903)	4/11/2000 7:33:00 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571724

I have seen statistics that show that the US non-gun murder rate is higher then many of the European countries where guns are very strictly regulated. If it was the effectiveness of the guns that caused more gun murders (and thus more total murders), you would think that the non-gun murder rate would be lower. I do think it is likely that if guns in the US became very rare, that gun murders would be lower, but increasing gun control will not get make guns very rare, it will just make guns in the hands of law abiding citizens very rare. There are more guns in the US then cars (and they kill less people ) and they are not that hard to hide or smuggle. Even ignoring the constitutional or libertarian arguments against gun control, I don't think it is a good practical idea.