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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (78004)	4/13/2000 3:38:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

You'll be getting it soon enough, from your own kids. "That's not fair!" "But you promised!" "How come he/she gets (toy, privilege, treat) and I don't?" What is that, if not a natural sense of justice, at least when applied to oneself? And then, when they are older, and someone outside the family tries to pick on one of them, the other will say, "you leave him/her alone!" Are these learned behaviors?

To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (78004)	4/13/2000 4:10:00 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 108807

Morals are innate: cont... You said...<<Language is similar. Do you have memories before language? I do, but I find it remarkable that those very early memories carry a "label" in language. Memory is plastic.>> You applied the label to what you already understood pre-language development. Yes, I have memories of laying in the krib and my relatives standing outside talking about me. On one occassion they were laughing at how I was on my knees with my face on the mattress sucking my thumb. I can describe the setting and the things that were going on in clear detail. Did I have the language to do that then. Of course not. I am able to apply the richness of language that I have acquired through 47 years of living to a situation that I had a thourough understanding of at a pre-language stage of my life. So....Yes. Language is like morals. You can teach me a moral rule, which I can apply to what I innately know to be the truth. I might infact determine that your rule is BS because it doesn't match my common sense understanding of goodness. I can disobey a rule I know to be a good one and if I haven't become to desensitized, have a conscience that bothers me. This is why the principles of goodness across the ages and cultures tend to match.