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To: PJ Strifas who wrote (31111)	4/18/2000 4:03:00 PM
From: Captain Jack	Respond to of 42771

P J S-- LOL!! I'll not argue with you as 22 mil cannot be wrong.. The provided content is wonderful for those that want it -- Great stock I've tucked away but the service of my neighbors reinforces I'm very happy with another...

To: PJ Strifas who wrote (31111)	4/19/2000 6:45:00 PM
From: Frederick Smart	Respond to of 42771

Peter.... >>If someone developed an integrated platform for community access (and community services on the back end), it would number AOL's days as the number 1 online company.>> As you know we've been spending a lot of time with various VoIp and Voice On the Net (VON) technologies. We are working with four financial services firms, building customized web-enabled VON applications. What's gets me so excited about VON is that there's a huge explosion of APIs, hooks, tools and services which enable the human voice to power/control the net and various legacy apps. VON seems to be shaping up as the human power/conduit which will launch this INDIVIDUAL control/service era. And, Peter, this fits very nicely into your integrated "community services" vision, for eGuide, NDS and object routing all can and will come alive with more and more INDIVIDUAL access and use of these controls. Couched on a platform of disciplined neutrality, keep up the positive spirit Peter. Peace. GO!!

To: PJ Strifas who wrote (31111)	4/19/2000 11:33:00 PM
From: ToySoldier	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42771

Peter, We have been doing a lot of testing in the lab with NW51. Today we decided to try installing NW51 and its boat-load of Internet services onto one of our Cable Modem service accounts. It took a total of 3 hours to set up the NOS, FTP, Netscape Enterprise Server, NetWare Management Portal, Certificate Server, and a Domain name creation and Redirection (via the "ONTHEINTER.NET" service). This 3 hours included a reinstall of NetScape Enterprise server to make an address change in the Web Server. We were able to FINALLY connect the NW51 server to the cable modem after Novell FINALLY listened and created/released an NLM called DHCPCLNT.NLM which lets a NetWare server accept a DHCP response from the cable-modem providers DHCP server. This, until recently was not possible and therefore, NetWare could not be used on Internet services that OSes like Linux, Win9x, NT could do. We had to use the a free DNS sub-domain registration service on the Internet called ONTHEINTER.NET so that web-site browsers could access the site via a Domain name as opposed to an address and the cable-modem provide (wont mention the name) does allow servers on their service and therefor would not provide us with a domain name. The added benefit of the DNS sub-domain site is that it allows one to redirect a port 80 request to be redirected to our NW51 web-server which has been configured to listen to a port# above 1024 so that the Cable-Modem ISP would not find the test server in its frequent server probes (as they look for port 80). So that one could be left alone during their server testing. The results, in short - INCREDIBLE. It worked like a charm! We were able to have a web server running, FTP services onto the NetWare volume, configure the NetScape Web Server, NDS, FTP, and other NOS parameters via the Internet, monitor the vast majority of the server's hardware and software. With another hour, we could have fully setup the GroupWise 5.5 full-serviced mail/calendaring which would also have been completely available via Web-Access. Forget the NIMS messaging - GroupWise 5.5 is more fully featured and mature. We have actually installed the GW55 about 10 times in our lab (in different configs) and we know it works. We could also have engaged the basic firewalling layer within NetWare (NIAS = Novell Internet Access Services) to provide some relatively advanced IP packet filtering. We also could have engaged the built-in NAT (Network Address Translation) so that a small office could utilize the single provided link. We could have also added the remote dial-in access to the server to also access both the internet and server services (including the LAN-based file/print). We could have enabled the NNTP service as well. We could even have been able to setup the VPN service via BorderManager so that client PCs out on the Internet could also have secured file/print access. I have to say, Novell's NetWare 5.1 is ALMOST a perfect "Internet-In-A-Box" as we could accomplish most of these these services in one box from native NetWare 5.1. The other services like GW, BM, and other products could also have been bolted on to this one box. There were things that we were ticked off or annoyed at during all our tests. For example, Novell should put NIMS as a native component to NW51 as its the critical missing link for an "INTERNET BOX". No built in messaging?? Bummer. We didnt like that Netscape Enterprise Web Service does not take kindly to having its IP address set up to an adapter that you want to use or to have it reconfigured. Very ugly! (to change the address from the originally incorrect address, we basically had to re-install the Web Service - or find the well hidden config files where the addresses are kept). We dont like that the NetWare Management Portal service can be access with NO secure ID & Password. Although the browsing user cannot make any changes to the server unless they authenticate, I dont want some unknown JOE from the internet to learn EVERYTING about my server. I also dont like that a secured SSL link is not established prior to the NetWare Management Portal being called up. I dont like that true SMP processor utilization is not possible to most of NetWare's native services. I dont like some of the immaturities of NetWare's IP (like mature IP load-balancing and fault-tolerance). And a few more smaller things. But, still an incredible deal for anyone who wants almost a complete "INTERNET IN A BOX" solution built on a server that is many times more reliable, scalable, secure, and feature packed then NT/Windows2K or even the other OS/Internet offerings. In fact, NW51 is a huge leap better deal than NW50. It got us techies purdy excited! In fact, one of the few guys in our team got so exicted, he went out and order his cable modem so he can also experiement with the services. Cheers Peter! Toy